Inquisitor 1974 : The Riddle of the Two Guards by Nathan Panning

Time for another Inquisitor from Nathan Panning.

The Preamble:

This puzzle is inspired by the old riddle where two doors are blocked by two guards, of whom one always tells the truth and one always lies. Here, each clue is really two clues written by two guards: the definition is true in one clue and a lie in the other. Solvers must determine which guard’s clues lead to answers in the left hand side of the grid, and which guard’s clues lead to answers in the right side. Answers 7, 9, 15 provide a yes-no question that one of the guards answers ‘no’. Depending on whether its unchecked squares are filled, 20 will be either a description of a guard or a statement of an ability solvers have using 7, 9, 15.

Where do we start?

We decided that we would add LIES to the left and TRUE to the right knowing that we could always print out another grid if we were wrong. Thankfully, we realised we were correct when the entries for 7 made sense.

We blogged the last Nathan Panning IQ which we really enjoyed – the clues here were again not as daunting as we first thought. Although we had never heard of LURS (trumpets) and guessed at WHEYEY, the clues were clear and accessible.

Our FOI was THESIS which needed checking in Chambers as we were not aware of the musical term. DAWNED followed fairly quickly and we were then well on the way to filling all the  connecting down clues.

Across the bottom, we had CAN ID ENTRY – a description of what ability solvers have knowing the answer to the question in 7, 9, 15.

We then read the preamble again. The old riddle of two doors relies on you asking one of the guards a question about how the other guard will reply. You know what choice to make as you always have to do the opposite of what they say. As the guard says NO to filling them in we chose CANDID SENTRY as the entry.

So, not as complex as we first thought when we read through the preamble but great fun. An original idea which was well executed. Thanks Nathan Panning. Here’s to the next one. We hope we don’t have to wait too long.

ACROSS
No. LIE TRUE
1 THESIS DAWNED
Upbeat article sibling began with two points to occupy father (6, 6)
THE (article) SIS (sibling) – a thesis is a downbeat in music – opposite of ‘upbeat’ / W NE (two points on the compass) inside (‘occupying’) DAD (father)
7
See preamble 
8 ACTUAL CLEARS
Faked performance for two old pence off wipes to break off scale right (6, 6)
ACT (performance) dUAL (for two) missing ‘d’ (old pence) – opposite of ‘faked’ / An anagram (‘break off’) of SCALE and R (right)
9
See preamble 
11 SEC HOO
Will’s cry: “Who said Mo is sweet?” (3, 3)
A homophone (‘said’) of WHO – a Shakespearean word / SEC (second – ‘mo’) – opposite of sweet
12 NAYS HEYS
Nationalist American lost city votes, favouring rural motions POTUS announced (4, 4)
N (Nationalist) A (American) YS (mythical city off the coast of Brittany that was swallowed up by the ocean) – opposite of ‘votes favouring’ / A homophone (‘announced’) of HAYES – a former President of the USA
15
See preamble
16 TURN TO SPEEDO
I will leave Italian city tour half way, stop working, dial sportswear company (6, 2 words, 6)
TURiN (Italian city) with ‘i’ missing (‘leaving’) TOur (half of tour) – ‘start working’, opposite of  ‘stop working’ / Double definition
17 AMADOU SOARED
Rose reportedly cut flame retardant in pyjama, doubtfully (6, 6)
A homophone (‘reportedly’) of SWORD SAWED (cut) / Hidden in pyjAMA DOUbtfully – tinder used for starting fires – opposite of ‘flame retardant’
19 IN ESSE STREET
Unrealised skill, missing first way setter puzzles (6, 2 words, 6)
fINESSE (skill) missing first letter – actual existence – opposite of ‘unrealised’ / An anagram (‘puzzles) of SETTER
20
See preamble 
DOWN
No. LIE TRUE
1 TWA DOC
One in Scotland stopping partway to provide canine bones (3,3)
Hidden (‘stopping’) in parTWAy – Scottish for ‘two’ not one / DO (to provide) C (canine)
2 HOCUS ATLAS
Be honest – this leads to us being burdened by the weight of the heavens, finally, finally failing (5, 5)
HOC (‘this’ in Latin) US – to cheat – opposite of  ‘be honest’ / AT LASt (finally) missing last letter (‘finally failing’)
3 EUTAXY WHEYEY
Pale detective getting into why Brussels reported cab chaos (6, 6)
EYE (detective) inside WHY / A homophone (‘reported’) of EU TAXI (‘Brussels cab’) – good order – opposite of ‘chaos’
4 SLURS NEATH
Welsh town bard’s inferior to soprano and trumpets’ staccato effects (5, 5)
A poetic word (bard’s) for inferior / S (soprano) LURS (trumpets) – smooth or legato effects in music – opposite of ‘staccato effects’
5 IDA ERR
Midas stripped in legendary river: task to scrub and put one’s foot in it (3, 3)
mIDAs missing first and last letters (‘stripped’) – a real river in Slovakia, not a legendary one / ERRand (task) without (‘scrubbing’) AND
6 SELF-COLOURED DISCOMMODITY
Byzantine double fresco with length not breadth, painted representing city’s dim mood in trouble (12, 12)
An anagram (‘byzantine’) of DOUbLE FRESCO with L (length) instead of ‘b’ (breadth) – opposite of painted / An anagram (‘representing’) CITY’S DIM MOOD
9 GENITALIC SCHUSSES
Sexless general of a right- leaning type running USSR chess loses rule and goes downhill fast (9, 8)
GEN (general) ITALIC (‘of a right-leaning type’) – opposite of ‘sexless’ / An anagram (‘running’) of USSr CHESS missing (‘losing’) ‘r’ (rule)
10 DEALT OOZED
Enjoyed liquor bar opening; moved slowly, as liquid was given beside alternative sandwiches (5, 5)
bOOZED (‘enjoyed liquor’) without (‘bar’) first letter (‘opening’) / Hidden (‘sandwiched’) in besiDE ALTernative – if you ‘dealt’ out cards it would be the opposite of being given them
13 ALUMINA EN POSTE
Soft mineral, one in possession of former student living as a diplomat, sent abroad with Poe (7, 7, 2 words)
I (one) inside (‘in possession of’) ALUMNA (former student) – a hard mineral, not ‘soft’) / An anagram (‘abroad’) of SENT and POE
14 SINDIS SHERBET
Juice drink made sharp with aromatic plant in to offend and disrespect Chinese people (7, 6)
SET (made sharp) with HERB (aromatic plant) inside / SIN (to offend) DIS (to disrespect) – people from SE Pakistan, not China. We had never come across set = ‘to sharpen’ before
15 FRAUEN TEA URN
Brewer’s ugly nature: “German men are fun to mess with” (6, 2 words, 6)
An anagram (‘ugly’) of NATURE / An anagram (‘to mess with’) of ARE FUN – Frauen are German women not men.
18 OSSI EVER
On record, apple-eater maybe writing 20% off Bolognese or Hamburger? (4, 4)
EVE (apple eater) R (writing as in the three Rs) / OSSIa (Italian – ‘Bolognese’ – for ‘or’ in music) losing one letter or 20% – Ossi is a citizen from the former GDR, not Hamburg

5 comments on “Inquisitor 1974 : The Riddle of the Two Guards by Nathan Panning”

  1. David Langford's avatar
    David Langford

    Much enjoyed; it brought back happy memories of being introduced to those logic puzzles in Martin Gardner’s books long ago. Nothing to add, really, other than that I waited until I had one of the clues that fit on only one side (14D) before assigning the naughty and nice halves of the grid. Luckily I remembered “set” = “sharpen” from Dorothy Sayers’s Have His Carcase, where a razor and its maintenance provides an important clue.

    Many thanks to Nathan Panning and Bertandjoyce.

  2. Sagittarius's avatar
    Sagittarius

    Well, I completed the grid, and picked up the possibility of a CANDID SENTRY, but I wasn’t very sure what CAN ID ENTRY was meant to mean, nor why either guard would be expressing an opinion, true or false, about whether or not I should fill in 2 squares. I compromised by filling them in pencil, wondering what I was missing. I enjoyed the true/false device and thought the clues were fine; just a bit puzzled by the end game. Thanks to Nathan Panning and Bertandjoyce.

  3. shikasta's avatar
    shikasta

    Thanks for the blog to a very neat puzzle. One minor point – I think the homophone in 17a is SAWED for cut rather than SWORD.

  4. Bertandjoyce's avatar
    Bertandjoyce

    Thanks Skikasta – well spotted! Blog corrected.

  5. Fisher's avatar
    Fisher

    Interesting that the lies were easier to spot than the trues!

    I enjoyed the challenge of the double clues and the unfolding hidden phrase although, like Sagittarius @2, I was convinced there was more to the end game and was looking for something more to fill in. I gave up and was glad to find there wasn’t anything I missed.

    Thanks to Nathan and Bertandjoyce

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