Independent 12,411 by Longitude

Longitude provides this Saturday’s brain-teaser – this is the third Indy puzzle by this relatively new setter, and the first we have blogged.

We were slightly surprised to find this at the easier end of the Saturday puzzle spectrum, with several write-ins. There were some smooth surfaces as in previous puzzles but 17ac was rather clunky in our opinion.

As it is Saturday, we are wondering whether there might be a theme – if so, we have completely missed it.

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
1. Go to meet German girl somewhere for a little drink? (4,5)
SHOT GLASS

SHOT (go) G (German) LASS (girl)

6. On retirement, provided with very limited amount of money (5)
FIVER

A reversal (‘on retirement’) of IF (provided) + VERy missing the last letter (‘limited’)

9. Very loudly exercise in wood when it’s supposed to be quiet (3-4)
OFF-PEAK

FF (very loud) PE (exercise) in OAK (wood)

10. Recall failure of clumsy seaman to gather sails in the middle (7)
AMNESIA

An anagram (‘clumsy’) of SEAMAN round (‘gathering’) I (middle letter of sails)

11. Eccentric cheered men and met for drink (5,2,6)
CREME DE MENTHE

An anagram (‘eccentric’) of CHEERED MEN and MET

13. Northern Ireland border rejected Japanese wine (5)
MIRIN

A reversal (‘rejected’) of N I (Northern Ireland) RIM (border) – we’ve never come across this wine before

15. Propositions concerning trade union resolution (9)
OVERTURES

OVER (concerning) TU (Trade Union) RES (resolution)

17. Gardener employing Pole holding current degree – one earning a lot for the business (9)
RAINMAKER

We think this must be: RAKER (‘gardener employing pole’) round IN (current) MA (degree) – but, while a rake could be said to have a ‘pole’ as a handle, it is a bit tenuous. We first thought it might be: RAKER (‘gardener’) round (’employing’) N (North – ‘pole’) round (‘holding’) I (current) MA (degree) – but the inclusions are in the wrong order. Any thoughts?

19. Caffeinated drink livens setter (5)
PEPSI

PEPS (livens) I (setter)

21. Church in the morning: on top of that cathedral city views showing famous avenue (6,7)
CHAMPS ELYSEES

CH (church) AM (in the morning) PS (post-script – ‘on top of that’) ELY (cathedral city) SEES (views)

25. It fertilises egg at speed (7)
NITRATE

NIT (egg) RATE (speed)

26. Leaving hotel, warm welcome for jealous husband (7)
OTHELLO

hOT (warm) missing (‘leaving’) ‘h’ (hotel) HELLO (welcome)

27. Kind steps taken in hearing (5)
STYLE

A homophone (‘in hearing’) of STILE (‘steps’)

28. Sick pups cured and made better (7,2)
SPRUCED UP

An anagram (‘sick’) of PUPS CURED

DOWN
1. Measured from top of seam down (4)
SLOW

S (first letter – ‘top’ – of seam) LOW (down)

2. Chip installed in present PC? (7)
OFFICER

IC (integrated circuit – ‘chip’) in OFFER (present)

3. Ogre beginning to eat diver (5)
GREBE

Hidden (‘eaten by’) in oGRE BEginning

4. Losing runs is irritating with stone in footwear (5,4)
ANKLE SOCK

rANKLES (is irritating’) rOCK (stone) both missing (‘losing’) ‘r’ (runs)

5. Ride on board Ford Model T, splitting southeast (5)
SKATE

KA (‘Ford model’) T in (‘splitting’) SE (southeast)

6. Semi-finals leading to German upset – a nail-biting finish? (9)
FINGERTIP

FINals (3 out of 6 letters – ‘semi’) GER (German) TIP (upset)

7. Head guard smuggles note back for outsider (7)
VISITOR

VISOR (head guard) round (‘smuggling’) a reversal (‘back’) of TI (note – in sol-fa notation)

8. Gibberish I rephrased for audience (10)
READERSHIP

An anagram (‘gibberish’) of I REPHRASED

12. Diluted espressos since aroma is horrible (10)
AMERICANOS

An anagram (‘horrible’) of SINCE AROMA

14. Badge identifying North American politician in Europe (deceased) (9)
NAMEPLATE

NA (North America) MEP (‘politician in Europe’) LATE (deceased)

16. Yard party joined by other ranks after earl makes special entrance (5,4)
EARLY DOOR

Y (yard) DO (party) OR (other ranks) after EARL. We initially thought that this might be an unusual version of ‘early doors’ – which doesn’t fit the definition. However, apparently the ‘early door’ was a special entrance to a theatre or hall for those who had paid extra to get in ahead of the normal opening time.

18. Home at apartment, put on lady’s clothing, in a way not fitting (7)
INAPTLY

IN (home) APT (apartment) + LadY (first and last letters or ‘clothing’)

20. Ground water covering street beside lake beginning to drain (7)
PESTLED

PEE (‘water’) round (‘covering’) ST (street) L (lake) + D (first letter or ‘beginning’ to drain)

22. Paying equally, tucked into elevenses (5)
EVENS

Hidden (‘tucked into’) elEVENSes

23. Release A and press middle of stick in complicated cheat code (5)
ETHIC

An anagram (‘complicated’) of CHEaT missing (‘releasing’) ‘a’ round (‘pressing in’) I (middle letter of stick)

24. Form of tinned spaghetti that is rings covered in sauce (4)
HOOP

OO (rings) ‘covered’ in HP (sauce)

8 comments on “Independent 12,411 by Longitude”


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  2. Layman

    Thanks Longitude, and Bert&Joyce! I’ve no better idea on RAINMAKER, and had the same thoughts. Had difficulty with some other parsings, too. Never heard of HP sauce or MIRIN.

  3. sofamore

    I think it’s the second of your two explanations for RAINMAKER and I think the setter intends that ‘holding’ means the ‘i’ should precede the ‘n’.

  4. Hovis

    I parsed RAINMAKER as in blog. I don’t feel sofamore’s explanation quite works, especially with the placing of MA. I had to check the meanings of RAINMAKER, MIRIN & EARLY DOOR. I wasn’t sure about the definition for SKATE. I presume the verb for riding a skateboard is ‘to skateboard’ but I’m happy to be corrected.

  5. Gnomad

    I had the same parsing as sofamore, but yes not very satisfactory.

    Also thought having the full EARL in the clue for 16d and the answer also a bit clunky.

  6. Petert

    I liked the &littish HOOP and CHAMPS ELYSEES was nicely put together. I am with Sofamore on RAINMAKER, employing and holding indicating two different insertions, but I agree that it’s clumsy.

  7. Longitude

    Thanks for the blog, Bertandjoyce!

    Appreciate the discussion about RAINMAKER – I could of course weigh in with my opinion on what the setter intended but why spoil the debate? 🙂

  8. Bertandjoyce

    Thanks Longitude – we hope you drop in again a bit later in the day.

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