Guardian Cryptic crossword No 30,117 by Vulcan

Thanks to Vulcan for the puzzle – I particularly liked 18ac and and 15dn. Apologies for a delayed and somewhat rushed blog today.

ACROSS
1 POPCORN
Dad with banal idea that’s got from the cinema (7)
POP=”Dad” + CORN=something trite/corny=”banal idea”
5 BARISTA
Obstruction is at flipping server (7)
BAR=”Obstruction” + IS (from surface) + reversal/”flipping” of AT
9 CAIRN
Stone memorial perhaps for terrier (5)
double definition: a pile of stones, perhaps as a memorial; or Cairn Terrier the breed of dog
10 NO OFFENCE
Excuse me asking, but why wasn’t that a penalty? (2,7)
[that it was] NO OFFENCE could be a reason [i.e. “why”] a penalty was not awarded e.g. in a football game
11 FLOURISHED
Meal I dropped, having borne fruit (10)
FLOUR=”Meal” + I (from surface) + SHED (as in e.g. to shed skin)=”dropped”
12 SKUA
One seabird; others returning (4)
a SKUA is a seabird; or reversal/”returning” of AUKS=other seabirds=”others”
14 RAW MATERIAL
Basic supplies for Cook? (3,8)
“Cook” suggests the idea of RAW as in ‘to be cooked’
18 PLEISTOCENE
Recent period of foul pestilence? Nothing in it (11)
definition: the geological epoch before the current Holocene

anagram/”foul” of (pestilence)*; with O=”Nothing” inside it

21 EROS
Love something from Stone Roses (4)
hidden inside (“something from”): [Ston]-E ROS-[es]
22 NEIGHBOURS
For scrubbing, bring house soap (10)
definition: Neighbours is the name of a soap opera series

anagram/”scrubbing” of (bring house)*

25 SPIT IT OUT
Hurry up and tell me what to do with what tastes rotten (4,2,3)
SPIT IT OUT would also be what one does if something tastes rotten
26 ULTRA
This marine is deeply blue (5)
reference to ‘ultramarine’, a deep blue colour

surface may cryptically mislead by suggesting a member of the marines who feels deeply sad/blue

27 DAYTIME
Light period of work, generally (7)
definition as in e.g. ‘make use of the light’ / ‘make use of the daytime’

DAYTIME is also a “period of work” for many people

28 ARSENAL
Gunners succeeded breaking into scene of conflict, then left (7)
definition: the Gunners as a nickname for Arsenal Football Club

S (short for succeeded in genealogy) inside ARENA=”scene of conflict”, plus L (left)

DOWN
1 PACIFY
Calm, quick to accept condition (6)
definition: to Calm, as a verb

PACY=”quick” around IF=”condition”

2 PRISON
Sent down here it’s cooler (6)
to be ‘sent down’ is to be sent to prison
3 OWNER’S RISK
Car may often be parked at this (6,4)
reference to signs saying e.g. ‘Park at your own risk’, ‘Vehicles parked at owner’s risk’, etc

surface may cryptically mislead if the reader assumes the “at” suggests a location where a car might be parked

4 NINES
In an emergency, call three of these (5)
reference to calling 999 during an emergency
5 BROKERAGE
Commission bankrupt, be very angry (9)
BROKE=”bankrupt” + RAGE=”be very angry”
6 RAFT
Right to the back in simple boat (4)
R (Right) + AFT=”back”
7 SANSKRIT
Breaking skis, rant in old language (8)
anagram/”Breaking” of (skis rant)*
8 AMENABLE
After end of prayer, fit and cooperative (8)
AMEN=”end of prayer”, with ABLE=”fit” coming after
13 HEREABOUTS
Be told by word of mouth a fight is somewhere close (10)
HERE sounds like (“by word of mouth”): ‘hear’=”Be told”

plus A BOUT’S = a bout is=”a fight is”

15 WHOLESOME
Not broken but not all healthy (9)
WHOLE=”Not broken” + SOME=”not all”
16 APPEASED
Calmed down as program got less awkward (8)
APP (application, computer “program”), plus EASED=”got less awkward”
17 FEROCITY
Viciousness of erotic manoeuvring in family on vacation (8)
anagram/”manoeuvring” of (erotic)*, in F-[amil]-Y vacated of its inner letters
19 MUTTON
Mongrel regularly found meat (6)
MUTT=”Mongrel” plus regular letters from [f]-O-[u]-N-[d]
20 ASSAIL
In attack spades smashed into a part of windmill (6)
S (“spades” in playing cards), inside: A (from surface) + SAIL=”part of windmill”
23 GOTTA
Informally must leave dry area (5)
for definition, e.g. ‘I gotta try’ = ‘I must try’

GO=”leave” + TT (teetotal, “dry”) + A (short for “area”)

24 KIWI
One can’t fly; vital to go to be picked up (4)
definition: a flightless bird

sounds like (“to be picked up”): ‘key wee’, with ‘key’=”vital” and ‘wee’=”to go”

42 comments on “Guardian Cryptic crossword No 30,117 by Vulcan”

  1. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    Trickier than usual, but one of the best Vulcan puzzles in a long time. Liked NO OFFENCE, NEIGHBOURS, SKUA, PLEISTOCENE, ARSENAL, OWNERS RISK, WHOLESOME and KIWI.
    I did chuckle last night at the first entry on the G site about the use of LOI, it seems to have caused a mixed reaction.

    EROS was nicely clued, reminded me of Love Spreads, a favourite ear worm https://youtu.be/ct-qa6SjRZo?si=v-GDbRHJC43Vacj-

    Ta Vulcan & manehi.

  2. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Thanks Vulcan and manehi
    I thought some of the clues were rather odd – NO OFFENCE, “scrubbing” as an anagram indicator, DAYTIME, PRISON (barely cryptic), and OWNERS RISK. 4d won’t work in most places in the world (911 is more frequently used).
    I liked BARISTA and FEROCITY.

  3. michelle's avatar
    michelle

    I agree with AlanC@1 that this was trickier than Vulcan’s usual Monday offerings.

    New for me: 999 = emergency call number; cooler = PRISON; CAIRN terrier.

  4. Robi's avatar
    Robi

    I also thought this was quite tricky. I liked the NEIGHBOURS’ house soap and the parked cars at OWNER’S RISK.

    Thanks Vulcan and manehi.

  5. Staticman1's avatar
    Staticman1

    Glad some of the earlier comments said this was more difficult than usual. I was worried I was losing my touch! But it can be like that with Vulcan if you are not on wavelength with the cryptic definitions and today was one of those days. OWNERS RISK took all the checking letters and a lot of time to see.

    Liked NEIGHBOURS, BARISTA and NO OFFENCE

    Thanks Vulcan and manehi

  6. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    I found this fairly straightforward, but then Vulcan’s style suits me. I agree with Alan @1’s views on the quality and choice of good clues which also chime with manehi’s.

    [I thought the outburst in the Guardian site’s comments was bizarre. There is so much angst about what gets posted there as to make it a non-starter for me. I only look when the blog here is late – not a complaint! – but this one really took the biscuit. I feel like it was more about people humbly posting their reactions within minutes of the puzzle going live. Along with the likes of Alan and Balfour, I admit to being a midnight solver sometimes, but I trust nobody here thinks we’re trying to prove anything. I guess many of the alleged offenders are in different timezones.]

    Thanks Vulcan and manehi.

  7. wynsum's avatar
    wynsum

    A wholesome challenge to start the week.
    I liked the soap scrubbing, the parked car and the wild, unsettling surface for FEROCITY.
    Thanks to Vulcan and manehi

  8. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    Took a while to get going, but eventually a satisfying solve. Though I wasn’t particularly impressed by the sharpness of RAW MATERIAL. (My only slight whinge). Whenever I come across that lovely word PLEISTOCENE I’m thinking I ought to pronounce it as in Plasticine. Last one in was APPEASED. Many thanks for the entertainment this Monday morning, Vulcan (especially with KIWI) and to Manehi…

  9. Lord Jim's avatar
    Lord Jim

    An enjoyable puzzle. I got PACIFY straight away because it reminded me of the classic “Quick to suppress harm here” (or similar) for PHARMACY. My favourite was perhaps HEREABOUTS which was clever.

    I also thought NO OFFENCE was good, though I can see the possible objection that the phrase is perhaps more likely to precede a statement than a question — “No offense, but I think you are mistaken”.

    Thanks to Vulcan and manehi.

  10. gladys's avatar
    gladys

    Agreed that this was trickier than the average Vulcan – I was putting my lack of progress down to general thickheadedness caused by cold germs, so it was nice to see I wasn’t alone. Faced with _E___B_U_S for 13d I actually had NEIGHBOURS for that for a while, until the real NEIGHBOURS came along.(Scrubbing? Well, I suppose so.). It took all the crossers to find PLEISTOCENE, but I liked it, along with SKUA, FEROCITY, AMENABLE and OWNERS RISK.

  11. Imaginary Cerebellum's avatar
    Imaginary Cerebellum

    Some really lovely clues – KIWI was my favourite, such a delightful homophone of ‘key wee’. HEREABOUTS also v clever.

    I did struggle in the SE corner – until succeeded (S) in ARENA opened it up for me, followed by TT for dry.

    I feel like I’ve seen FY for ‘family on vacation’ before, but it still took me a while to remember it!

    Overall, a very fair and enjoyable puzzle, thanks Vulcan and blogger.

    I didn’t spot a theme…. not sure if Vulcan usually has one?

  12. gladys's avatar
    gladys

    I don’t think I have ever seen a theme in any of Vulcan’s crosswords: he certainly isn’t known for them.

  13. Nakamova's avatar
    Nakamova

    I wonder if the folks packing the popcorn at the movie theater call themselves “popcorn baristas”. I liked the way many of the answers in today’s puzzle (daytime arsenal, the raw material of the Pleistocene) went well together, even if there was no theme. Thanks Vulcan and manehi.

  14. Redrodney's avatar
    Redrodney

    I read DAYTIME as a charade of light (DAY) and period (TIME) plus @lit for the whole definition, but I guess it could be read either way. Some nice misleading clues here. I particularly liked the idea of the polite penalty enquiry in NO OFFENCE.

  15. Jacob's avatar
    Jacob

    Relieved to see that I was not the only one finding this more tricky than the usual Monday. Not a complaint, mind you. I got hung up in the SE for an inordinately long time, with that entire corner being my LOIs. Or should that be LOsI, Last Ones In?

    22A was particularly tricky: I realized on first sight it had to be an anagram, but it did not fall until I had all the crossers.

    LOI (pace the G. comments section) was 26A, which in hindsight was thoroughly straightforward.

    Redrodney@14: I read DAYTIME the same way.

  16. Lobsterdarts's avatar
    Lobsterdarts

    I struggled with this, and had to reveal PRISON/CAIRN (not knowing the dog, and not seeing the CD obvious to many). It felt there were some ridiculously easy CDs like NINES with many quite impenetrable ones.

    But maybe my brain is just not in gear! Thanks Vulcan and Manehi.

  17. Geoff Down Under's avatar
    Geoff Down Under

    Good fun. Not a fan of the clue for DAYTIME. I thought perhaps I’d missed something. And couldn’t work out what a cairn has to do with a terrier.

    [When a local shop put a sign in their carpark saying Parking at owner’s risk, I assumed they were referring to the owner of the shop. 😉 ]

  18. Dr. WhatsOn's avatar
    Dr. WhatsOn

    Nice puzzle. Liked ARSENAL and NO OFFENCE (and you can take that comment as self-referential).

    [I thought the target of the G. site rant a bit mystifying. I had been waiting for someone to point out that the earliest posters often post such insipid, information-free comments, the only thing they are saying is “Look at how quickly I finished!”. But I would never bring that up myself 😀]

  19. Bruce's avatar
    Bruce

    Decent puzzle except for RAW MATERIAL. I wonder if ‘Cook’ in “Basic supplies for Cook?” is perhaps a reference to Captain James Cook, known for pioneering taking citrus fruit etc on long sea voyages to prevent scurvy. But it’s a bit tenuous.

  20. Srivats's avatar
    Srivats

    I truly enjoyed this – had to reveal one or two, but that’s par. I was amazed and delighted by the smooth and completely unforced artistry of many of the clues!

    Thanks Vulcan for a beautiful one, and manehi for your useful blog.

  21. SimoninBxl's avatar
    SimoninBxl

    Tricky in places and SE corner was the last to fall. Thanks to AlanC@1 – I had a look at the comments on G site and 😳.

  22. RabTh3Cat's avatar
    RabTh3Cat

    Isn’t it weird what wavelength and mindset can do. For me this was one of the most straightforward cryptics in a long time. Somehow my mind seemed to do the same things as Vulcan’s did. I used to find the same with Picaroon, and now sometimes with Pasquale and Carpathian. Whereas Brummie!!!!

  23. Zoot's avatar
    Zoot

    Not the best day to use the phrase ‘ARSENAL succeeded.’ 🙁

  24. Zoot's avatar
    Zoot

    Sorry, that should be ‘ Gunners succeeded.’ Too upset to check properly.

  25. Mandarin's avatar
    Mandarin

    Agree this was harder end of Vulcan. WHOLESOME is a great clue.

  26. Zed622's avatar
    Zed622

    I must say that I found SE to be the longest unfilled sector for me as well, so share a spirit of (relieved) commiseration that I wasn’t alone. LOI was NEIGHBOURS, perhaps as I am not familiar with that variety of soap, despite the facepalm obviousness it should have been given the crossers…

    Loved PLEISTOCENE and FLOURISHED (once I realized this wasn’t a “meal” one normally eats at certain times of day). Thanks to manehi and Vulcan!

  27. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Thanks for the blog , pretty good overall .
    I thought that ARSENAL was the store of weapons etc not the actual soldiers .
    AlanC@1 , your famous birthmark gets mentioned again for 4 Down .

  28. WhiteDevil's avatar
    WhiteDevil

    KIWI threw me, but it couldn’t be anything else. Good fun.

  29. sheffield hatter's avatar
    sheffield hatter

    A very enjoyable puzzle from Vulcan, with some clever constructions.

    NO OFFENCE reminded me of an Eric Idle sketch on Monty Python, but I think that was more, “If it’s not a personal question…”

    Last one in was the simple RAFT, where the last three letters really do mean ‘to the back’, not just ‘the back’ – I mention this not to correct our blogger, but to confirm how accurate the setter has been here.

    Thanks to Vulcan and Manehi.

  30. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Roz @27
    Yes, an “arsenal” is a weapons store, but (as I’m sure AlanC will tell you), the football team Arsenal (originally from Woolwich!) are nicknamed “The Gunners”.

  31. Valentine's avatar
    Valentine

    Thanks to Vulcan and manehi.

  32. Peter's avatar
    Peter

    Did anyone else think ULTRA 26a could also be a reference to the ultras – extreme football fans for a club with a blue strip? Deeply blue?

  33. Mystogre's avatar
    Mystogre

    Why did I get 30117 by Matilda when I downloaded it just after 11 am my time? It was a good Monday puzzle but bears no relation to the one you all solved.

  34. Knox's avatar
    Knox

    I had ARSENAL but couldn’t figure out where the S came from. Thanks for the explanation, that’s a new one for me.

  35. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    me @30
    As manehi said in the blog….

  36. TomK's avatar
    TomK

    I thought this was generally straightforward, but I needed to come here for explanation of the S in ARSENAL. Thanks manehi! I still don’t really get RAW MATERIAL though.

  37. Lancastrian's avatar
    Lancastrian

    26a Alone in going for “royal” blue.

  38. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    Roz @27: 😊

  39. BobV's avatar
    BobV

    I agree with Bruce #19 about Cook. Any other explanation for capitalisation of Cook?

  40. Etu's avatar
    Etu

    BobV 39,

    I’ve come to assume that punctuation, spacing – or lack of – and capitalisations can be ignored in crossword clues, and may be deliberately “wrong” to mislead, so in this case it would be no more than that.

  41. Mig's avatar
    Mig

    Needed two days for this Monday puzzle. A breakthrough last night led to completion this morning, snapping a losing streak

    Favourite 10a NO OFFENCE (for the surface)

    4d NINES, two nights ago I watched the Beatles’ movie HELP, which included a scene involving dialling 999, reminding me that that’s the emergency number in the UK

  42. Mig's avatar
    Mig

    As always, thanks to Roz for encouraging patience

    [Honoured to snag the coveted 42, though everyone’s probably gone by now]

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