Guardian 30,091: Brummie

Thanks to Brummie for an entertaining puzzle, with some helpful anagrams to get things moving.

Seeing GALILEO and MONTEVERDI made me think we might be in for an Italian theme, but I can’t see anything else relevant. There’s also the French WATTEAU and MADAME, with several French elements used in the clues, but again not enough to constitute a theme. I could well have missed something, of course.

 
Across
9 DIME NOVEL ‘Evil demon vanquished!’ makes sensational reading (4,5)
(EVIL DEMON)*
10 CAVER Sporty type beneath the surface, but one who’ll give in? (5)
Double definition
11 OCTOBER Court award presented in alternative month (7)
C[our]T + OBE in OR
12 GALILEO Astronomer’s western partner, one with a sign (7)
GAL (western partner, as in guys & gals) + I + LEO (astrological sign)
13 INCH Tongue-in-cheek, creep inside (4)
Hidden in tongue-IN_CHeek
14 MONTEVERDI Composer of divertimento managed without it (10)
DIVERTIMENTO less IT
16 TANGENT Treasure’s almost buried by explosive – touching (7)
ANGE[L] (treasure, as an endearment) in TNT
17 WATTEAU Artist’s Power Unit and Evian Water (7)
WATT (SI unit of power) + EAU (French “water”)
19 EMBODIMENT Model person appearing in NME, Time Out (10)
BOD (person) in (NME TIME)*
22 BRAT Child has right to enter club (4)
R in BAT
24 CENTRED Focused on getting money – shamefaced (7)
CENT + RED
25 SEDUCER Deceiver, foreign nobleman, featured in Observer (7)
DUC (French duke) in SEER
26 ARSON Minister without Portfolio’s capital offence (5)
PARSON (minister) less the first letter (capital) of Portfolio
27 MERCILESS Very hard as level of gratitude abroad reduced? (9)
MERCI (French “thank you”) -LESS
Down
1 A DROP IN THE OCEAN Not much of an experience for the Artemis II crew at the end (1,4,2,3,5)
Double definition, referring to the splashdown of a spacecraft
2 EMOTICON Smiley book’s going up I learn? (8)
Reverse of TOME + I + CON (study, learn)
3 SNUBS Insults marrow in seconds (5)
NUM (bore, marrow) in S S
4 OVERCOAT Company actor initially wearing plain attire (8)
CO A[ctor] in OVERT (plain)
5 BLIGHT Black, easily portable mould (6)
B + LIGHT – mould/blight as in diseases of crops
6 ACCLIVITY Incline to quash civil act by end of day (9)
(CIVIL ACT)* + [da]Y
7 OVULAR Valour shown after detonation of part of a plant (6)
VALOUR*
8 ARBORICULTURIST Tree expert’s concoction of citrus and oil-tar rub (15)
(CITRUS OIL TAR RUB)*
15 DEODORANT It refreshes dictionary’s backing – and work by Bellow (9)
Reverse of OED (Oxford English Dictionary) + DO (work) + RANT (to bellow)
17 WINDSURF Travel on board Chinook, say, seated on foam (8)
WIND (Chinook is a wind in the Rocky Mountains) + SURF (foam)
18 ENRICHED Buddy possibly needs energy to be put in goal and improved (8)
RICH (Buddy Rich, jazz drummer) + E in END (goal)
20 BANISH Elected, elevated and taken to party’s heart – then shut out (6)
Reverse of IN (elected) in BASH (party)
21 MADAME Nice woman gets a daughter into musical? (6)
A D[aughter] in MAME (Jerry Herman musical), with the familiar trick of using Nice as the French city
23 ADMIT Sing and entertain (5)
Double definition – to sing is to admit to a crime

61 comments on “Guardian 30,091: Brummie”

  1. Crispy's avatar
    Crispy

    Thanks Andrew. Slight typo – SNUBS is NUB in SS.

  2. Tomsdad's avatar
    Tomsdad

    I was impressed by the surface for ARBORICULTURIST. CAVER took me far too long. Is this the second appearance of MADAME this week? I realise I got DIME NOVEL wrong, entering ‘demi’ for the first word, getting confused with demi-monde, so a red face from me. Good to see Buddy Rich in the fodder. I agree with Andrew that this was a very inventive and enjoyable puzzle. Thanks to Brummie and Andrew.

  3. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Thanks Brummie and Andrew
    Very entertaining. Favourite WINDSURF (once I remembered that Chinook was originally a wind); lots of other good ones too.
    A couple I didn’t like, for a similar reason – TANGENT and EMBODIMENT both needed not very obvious synonyms for a word in the clue to be inserted. Did anyone think “treasure’s almost – that’ll be ANGE then”?

  4. MAC089's avatar
    MAC089

    @3 muffin, no, I managed to guess TANGENT then took several seconds to work out what treasure ANGE_ was.

  5. Layman's avatar
    Layman

    Didn’t know BOD, Buddy RICH (not into jazz much) or MAME, and couldn’t parse BANISH or ARSON. Otherwise, not too taxing; ADMIT my LOI and a favourite clue, along with BLIGHT. If there’s a theme, I can’t identify it. Thanks Brummie and Andrew!

  6. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    I had diver for CAVER initially. It seemed to work. I hadn’t heard of MAME so look longer on that one despite spotting the Nice woman device. I’m glad I’m good at French this week.

    Good puzzle. Thanks Brummie and Andrew.

  7. Menander's avatar
    Menander

    I made quickish work of the northern half of this, but took a while to solve some of the later clues. LOI was WINDSURF, which was my fave in the end. I felt that ADMIT wasn’t an exact fit for either of the clued definitions – yet it still sprung to mind before I had any of the crossers. And liked DEODORANT, even though ‘bellow’ might only be a loose synonym for ‘rant’, for mine. Overall a very enjoyable finish to the week!

    Martin @6 I had ‘diver’ too at first, before tackling the anagram.

  8. Petert's avatar
    Petert

    I only thought of Buddy Rich after rejecting Holly, Greco and Guy. PARSON was my favourite. Muffin@3 maybe only Spurs supporters?

  9. KVa's avatar
    KVa

    Liked CAVER, INCH, A DROP IN THE OCEAN, ACCLIVITY and BANISH.

    INCH
    Liked the unconventional construction.
    A D I T OCEAN
    Def 1 of Def 2 —acceptable. right?

    Thanks Brummie and Andrew.

  10. epop's avatar
    epop

    Like Layman#5 I couldn’t parse banish. Centered loi. Thanks

  11. michelle's avatar
    michelle

    Very enjoyable puzzle.

    Favourite: MADAME, WATTEAU, MERCILESS.

    New for me: drummer Buddy RICH (for 18d).

  12. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    [Buddy Rich gets a mention in this Pete Atkin/Clive James song!]

  13. brian-with-an-eye's avatar
    brian-with-an-eye

    Thanks, Brummie and Andrew. I thought there might be a theme of things that happen in a DIME NOVEL: a BRAT, a SEDUCER and a MADAME commit ARSON but faced with a MERCILESS detective in a shabby OVERCOAT, they CAVE and ADMIT their crimes. Nah, probably not.

  14. Judge's avatar
    Judge

    kVa@9 I had “not much of” as the definition for 1d

  15. TassieTim's avatar
    TassieTim

    I had similar thoughts, b-w-a-e@13. I liked CAVER, as I used to be one – that went straight in (hello, DerekTheSheep!). Lots more to like, even though I baulk at foam=SURF – the latter can cause the former, but surely they are not equivalent. Thanks, Brummie and Andrew.

  16. KVa's avatar
    KVa

    Judge@14
    A D I T OCEAN
    I feel that ‘not much’ is a better fit (as the blogger has underlined).

  17. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    This puzzle reminded me that I need to do my Duolingo, to keep my streak going. On the easier side for the setter, 1d was a bit of a gift. MERCILESS and EMOTICON were my favourites and nice to be reminded of the drummers’ drummer.

    Ta Brummie & Andrew.

  18. grantinfreo's avatar
    grantinfreo

    Tried ennobled first at 18d, but then of course there’s no energy needed (there’s an actor Buddy Noble, not that I knew him). The c of seducer sorted it out. Fun puzzle, ta Brum and Andrew.

  19. bodycheetah's avatar
    bodycheetah

    I’ve been underwhelmed by Brummie in the past but thoroughly enjoyed this one

    Podium places for MERCILESS, EMBODIMENT and GALILEO for getting the day off to a great start with a bit of Indigo Girls

    Cheers B&A

  20. Nakamova's avatar
    Nakamova

    brian-with-an-eye@13 I like the way you think! That would make for an interesting noir. Last one in for me was BRAT. All the children I know are well-behaved. 🙂

  21. Lord Jim's avatar
    Lord Jim

    Very entertaining. My favourites were ARSON for the “Minister without Portfolio” and WINDSURF for the “Travel on board” — both brilliant.

    KVa @9: yes I wondered about “of” as a link word in 1d. I suspect PostMark wouldn’t like it. Could the whole clue (at a pinch) be taken as a cryptic definition?

    INCH was another nice reminder that the definition doesn’t have to be at the beginning or end of the clue.

    Many thanks Brummie and Andrew.

  22. DavidT's avatar
    DavidT

    Surprised how many commenters on the Guardian site seemed to think this was tricky, as I found it all went in fairly easily, though to be fair I did get the two long ones quite quickly and a surrprising number of first guesses at the definition turned out to be on the money. I suppose you get days like that.
    On the other hand, it’s good to derive an answer purely from the cryptic part, and this for me was a gratifyingly bijorate puzzle, both ACCLIVITY and OVULAR being NHOs. I await tomorrow’s Prize with unwonted and unmerited confidence.

  23. gladys's avatar
    gladys

    The little ones were the toughest! Another DIVER here – it fits as well as CAVER until the top crosser doesn’t match. BRAT took a long time to appear and neither of the two synonyms for (loi) ADMIT came to mind: I needed a wordfinder for that. OVULAR and ACCLIVITY were new ( though I knew declivity).

    Favourites MONTEVERDI, A DROP IN THE OCEAN, DIME NOVEL, WINDSURF (which had me thinking of helicopters, as no doubt it was meant to).

  24. Wolf's avatar
    Wolf

    Spelt DEODORANT wrong, which explains why I couldn’t parse it 🤣.
    Enjoyable puzzle, a couple of new words for me (ACCLIVITY, MAME, OVULAR) but worked them out and checked the defs. Thanks Brummie & Andrew

  25. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    WINDSURF took a long while. So did ADMIT. The long solutions at 1d, 8d provided a generous way into the grid to begin with. Excellent puzzle from Brummie today, I thought. (Have also recently discovered from reading Rob Halford’s (he of the band Judas Priest) entertaining autobiography “Confess” that the Brummie and the Black Country accents are distinctly different from one another)…

  26. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    [My 11 year saw this thread the other day and despite my advice to the contrary, has started saying “quibble”. I hope you’re proud of yourselves! 😂]

  27. Robi's avatar
    Robi

    Pleasant solve with some Nice ideas. I particularly liked the astronomer GALILEO’s western gal, MERCILESS showing little thanks, Bellow’s DEODORANT, and to WINDSURF aboard a Chinook. I think A DROP IN THE OCEAN might be an extended definition as the Artemis II astronauts are only going in to earth orbit before splashdown.

    Thanks Brummie and Andrew.

  28. Steppie's avatar
    Steppie

    [Martin@26, wait ’til your 11 year-old spots “quiblet” 😉 ]
    Goldilocks for me; ADMIT took too long. Andrew, thanks for your blog; have you omitted the usual brackets and apostrophe for the anagram fodder in 14?

  29. Dr. WhatsOn's avatar
    Dr. WhatsOn

    Nice puzzle.
    My only slight sticking point was after getting GALILEO trying to justify GAL – was it meant to be a partner (i.e.woman) in a Western movie, or how women might be referred to West of some unmentioned reference point, presumably the UK? Not sure it really matters.

  30. HoofItYouDonkey's avatar
    HoofItYouDonkey

    Very enjoyable, not to tricky, in readiness of Paul tomorrow, maybe?
    Just missed on EMOTICON having been thoroughly foxed by SMILEY, assumihg it was as in George.
    ACCLIVITY was new and ADMIT took far to long.
    Thanks both…

  31. WhiteDevil's avatar
    WhiteDevil

    Slipped up on a couple, but fun and less punitive than a usual Friday.

  32. HoofItYouDonkey's avatar
    HoofItYouDonkey

    Ronald @25 – by the same token, don’t ever call someone from Wolverhampton a Brummie!!

  33. Sandman's avatar
    Sandman

    Buddy Rich raises the “what’s general knowledge“ question again. I would say he is, but then I’m cracking on a bit. I’d imagine he hasn’t been spoken of much for twenty years at least, outside specialist circles. I know he was one of the great drummers of the 20th century, many on this blog do. But is he still fair game?

    Buddy Holly I imagine we’d all be happy with.

    A crossword editor’s lot is not a happy one.

  34. Mig's avatar
    Mig

    Some delightful and tempting misdirections in this one. Getting the two long Downs early helped a lot. Several gettable nho’s with clear clueing

    My top favourite was 26a ARSON, with “Minister without Portfolio” and “capital offence” both forming compelling and misdirecting phrases. It also has an excellent surface. Great clue

    Also 27 MERCILESS (funny, expected a subtraction), 1d ADITO (funny), 15d DEODORANT (referencing Canadian author Saul Bellow, neat construction), 17d WINDSURF (on an actual “board”, double bluff), 23d ADMIT (a DD that creates a plausible misdirection), and most of the others. Excellent puzzle

    25a SEDUCER, my first thought was yet another EYEBALL (“Observer”), supporting Forest Fan’s conspiracy theory @51 yesterday. Not to be…

    10a CAVER will please DerekTheSheep, who I think engaged in that sport beneath the surface

    Well done brian-with-an-eye@13 assembling the theme. So obvious now

    Thanks both and all

  35. PhilB's avatar
    PhilB

    Good fun and not too hard. In fact the whole week has been OK for me.
    Not much to say that has not already been said. Many great clues. I thought ADMIT was a bit of a stretch for sing and entertain.
    Thanks B&A

  36. Valentine's avatar
    Valentine

    Had fun with this.

    Whenever I see the name “Watteau” I hear in my head the tune from “Trial by Jury,” the reminiscence of a formerly lovesick boy — “Breathing concentrated otto, An existence a la Watteau.”

    I’m not as smart as those who thought of “diver” — I tried “ceder” for “one who’ll give in.” That didn’t work either.

    I’ve never heard of Buddy Rich, but after guessing ENRICHMENT I googled the name to see if there was such a person.

    muffin@3 I certainly didn’t. I thought something like “explosive — TNT on the outside — touching might make tangent — that leaves ANGE on the inside — oh, maybe ANGE(l)?

    Chinook didn’t make me think of helicopters at all, but to remember the westerly winds off the Canadian Rockies in the frozen winters. I lived in Calgary for nine months long ago, and remember the “Chinook arch” that appears over the mountains to the west and lets you know that tomorrow will be t-shirt weather.

    Thanks, Brummie and Andrew.

  37. Nyer's avatar
    Nyer

    In 11A, I don’t see the indication for taking the middle out of COURT. What am I missing?

  38. Stools77's avatar
    Stools77

    I struggled with EMBODIMENT and therefore didn’t get BANISH but I know who Buddy Rich is. WINDSURF took a bit of head-scratching until the lightbulb went on…aahh, chinook!!

  39. Mig's avatar
    Mig

    Nyer@37 CT is a standard abbreviation for COURT, which comes up a lot in crosswords. They’re pretty much equivalent in crosswordland. File it away!

  40. Tyngewick's avatar
    Tyngewick

    Thanks both,
    Some entertaining clues. Potato blight is not a mould. How frequently are blights caused by moulds?

  41. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Thanks for the blog , very good set of neat clues , a setter I know well because of Cyclops so now 3/5 for guess the setter .

  42. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Mine again , four days in a row .

  43. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    [ AlanC@17 your run has ended , a word of advice for tomorrow . Do not sit in Row Z , it can be dangerous for young children . ]

  44. SimoninBxl's avatar
    SimoninBxl

    Congrats to Roz@42.
    Enjoyable but seemed a little easy for a Friday, although I ADMIT that 23d took a lot longer than it should have. My thanks to B & A.

  45. jellyroll's avatar
    jellyroll

    Possibly earliest ever finish except I did not get ADMIT even using a thesaurus and word finder. Looks like it caused trouble for others as well.

  46. Jacob's avatar
    Jacob

    A rare DNF for as ADMIT defeated me. I dragged up MAME from, I think, a recent cryptic. Otherwise, WATTEAU and OVULAR were new for me, but went in by construction/deduction.

    A good puzzle for Friday.

  47. Zoot's avatar
    Zoot

    To all those who have never heard Buddy Rich, count your blessings.

  48. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    [Roz @43: spookily enough, that’s exactly where we’re sitting, I wish I could post a photo to prove it. Keep up the good work on 42 😊

    Zoot @47: now I’m very intrigued by that comment?]

  49. pavement's avatar
    pavement

    I had not heard of Buddy Rich but at least he is more recent than Richard Rich.
    Also now intrigued by Zoot@47.
    Possibly not as intrigued as I am about Roz’s 42 mission.

  50. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    [ AlanC @48 , you must know the song my students taught me about a former KPR player ? So watch out . ]

  51. BigNorm's avatar
    BigNorm

    Apart from the rather weakly-clued TANGENT, I enjoyed this one. Thanks to blogger and setter.

  52. Zoot's avatar
    Zoot

    AlanC @48 [ Buddy Rich is revered by many drummers for his superlative technique, but in my view technique is a means to an end, not an end in itself. I think he was unable or unwilling to subordinate that technique to the needs of the band he was playing with and accept the role of accompanist, as for example his older contemporary Jo Jones was. His playing spoils a number of recordings for me, for example those with Charlie Parker. It’s obviously a matter of taste.]

  53. matt w's avatar
    matt w

    Buddy Rich also comes up in the Beastie Boys’ “Sabotage,” as a metaphor for flying off the handle–there is a famous tape of him cursing out his band after a gig. Now to not think about how old “Sabotage” is. Less GK for me than some of the more UKish references! And Watteau I know about from the Monty Python skit that has Carol Cleveland [edit: rather Katya Wyeth, apparently] sobbing, “But it’s my only line!”

    Very enjoyable puzzle, with the SW taking the longest for me–is DEOHERZOG something, I wondered? Misled myself on several of the constructions like figuring “party’s heart” would be R.

    Thanks Brummie and Andrew!

  54. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    [matt w @53
    I’ve found the Buddy Rich clips. (PG warning!) He doesn’t sound like a very nice person!]

  55. Zoot's avatar
    Zoot

    muffin @ 54. He wasn’t. He once kicked Terry Gibbs out of his car in the desert in the middle of the night. Fortunately the band bus came along a couple of hours later and picked him up.

  56. Balfour's avatar
    Balfour

    [Zoot @52 I entirely agree. I always found his work egocentric to the point of being unlistenable.]

  57. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    [Zoot @55: thanks for your input, had no idea and has certainly taken the sheen of Spooner’s female red setter]

  58. Alphalpha's avatar
    Alphalpha

    AlanC@57: lol

  59. Cellomaniac's avatar
    Cellomaniac

    [ Zoot, you’re right, it’s a matter of taste, and if you have any, you find his playing as obnoxious as his treatment of his bands.

    My biggest beef with him is that he inspired a whole generation of drummers who thought their job was to drown out everything else. I recall going to a concert to hear Renee Rosnes, and coming away wishing I had heard Renee Rosnes. (Fortunately she eventually ditched him.) ]

  60. Etu's avatar
    Etu

    AlanC 57,

    Thanks for that 🙂

    Great stuff as usual from Brummie.

    Cheers all.

  61. TomK's avatar
    TomK

    Enjoyed this. Annoyed at myself for not seeing ‘bash’ as party in 20D so came here for the parsing. Learned that Chinook was a wind too, so thank you.
    Hoofit, will you be at The Den today? Who knows, we may be sitting next to each other and never know!

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