Guardian Cryptic crossword No 30,022 by Brummie

The puzzle may be found at https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/cryptic/30022.

Brummie at his best, requiring some care with less common definitions. He often includes a theme, but nothing stands out for me here.

ACROSS
8 FREE-FORM
Unstructured feature of shelf reef or massif (4-4)
A hidden answer (‘feature of’) in ‘shelF REEF OR Massif’.
9 RUFFE
Agitate live, dumped freshwater fish (5)
A subtraction: RUFF[l]E (‘agitate’) minus the L (‘live dumped’). The fish is also known as a pope.
10 ATOP
Great opera houses going under? The opposite (4)
A hidden answer (‘houses’) in ‘greAT OPera’.
11 BLANK VERSE
Ken’s verbal rendering of ‘To be, or not to be’, say (5,5)
An anagram (‘rendering’) of ‘Ken’s verbal’.
12 SNOBBY
Condescending southern outdated name given to Clark? (6)
A charade of S (‘southern’) plus NOBBY (‘outdated name given to Clark’ – a nickname once given, particularly in the military, to anyone named Clark – or Clarke)
14 THROTTLE
Rubbish, vacuous tutorial fills the silence (8)
An envelope (‘fills’) of ROT (‘rubblish’) plus TL (‘vacuous TutoriaL‘) in ‘the’.
16 RECTIFY
City’s upset with ref, right? (7)
An anagram (‘upset’) of ‘city’ plus ‘ref’.
18 ONE-STAR
Martin’s residence in row that’s not highly rated? (3-4)
An envelope (‘in’) of NEST (‘martin’s residence’) in OAR (‘row’).
21 ASSIGNED
Transferred in the manner indicated (8)
AS SIGNED (‘in the manner indicated’).
23 VIEWER
One struggling to comprehend the Guardian gets Observer (6)
An envelope (‘to comprehend’) of WE (‘the Guardian’) in VIER (‘one struggling’).
24 EXPECTANCY
Anticipation’s useless except with name-dropping former First Lady (10)
A charade of EXPECT, an anagram (‘useless’) of ‘except’ plus [n]ANCY (Reagan, ‘former First Lady’)minus the N (‘name-dropping’).
26 BODY
Stiff, wow, having died inside! (4)
An envelope (‘having … inside’) of D (‘died’) in BOY (‘wow’).
27 SOLAR
Also diverted river as energy source (5)
A charade of SOLA, an anagram (‘diverted’) of ‘also’; plus R (‘river’).
28 SAGACITY
Wisdom of imposing flag on a large community (8)
A charade of SAG (‘flag’) plus A CITY (‘a large community’).
DOWN
1 PRETENCE
Cover figure in fancy crepe (8)
An envelope (‘in’) of TEN (‘figure’) in PRECE, an anagram (‘fancy’) of ‘crepe’.
2 BEEP
Live recording’s electronic alert (4)
A charade of BE (‘live’) plus EP (extended play ‘recording’).
3 COWBOY
Devious worker, bully and lout getting a rise (6)
A charade of COW (‘bully’, verb) plus BOY, a reversal (‘getting a rise’ in a down light) of YOB (‘lout’).
4 IMPASTO
Laying it on thick: ‘One’s too old for love’ (7)
A charade of I’M (‘one’s’) plus PAST (‘too old for’) plus O (‘love’).
5 TREK
Hiker told about covering arduous walk (4)
A hidden (‘covering’) reversed (‘about’) answer in ‘hiKER Told’.
6 AFTERTASTE
Lingering sensation of behind getting smack (10)
A charade of AFTER (‘behind’) plus TASTE (‘smack’).
7 VESSEL
Shelves heaving – husband’s abandoned junk? (6)
An anagram (‘heaving’) of ‘s[h]elves’ minus the H (‘husband’s abandoned’), with the question mark for the indication by the example of the Chinese boat.
13 BOTTICELLI
Excessive to introduce diamonds into construction of Bill the artist? (10)
An envelope (‘to introduce … into’) of OTT (Over The Top, ‘excessive’) plus ICE (‘diamonds’) in BLLI, an aangram (‘construction’) of ‘Bill’.
15
See 17
17, 15 FUN RUN
Pleasure to manage sporting charity event (3,3)
A charade of FUN (‘pleasure’) plus RUN (‘manage’).
19 ANECDOTE
A relative (not I) appropriating little Dorothy’s account (8)
An envelope (‘appropriating’) of DOT (‘little Dorothy’) i A N[i]ECE (‘a relative’) minus the I (‘not I’).
20 ODDNESS
Spare cape’s peculiarity (7)
A charade of ODD (‘spare’) plus NESS (‘cape’).
22 SEXISM
It is male discrimination? (6)
A charade if IT (‘sex’) plus ‘is’ plus M (‘male’), with an extended definition.
23 VOYAGE
Goya worked in extremely venerable passage (6)
An envelope (‘in’) of OYAG, an anagram (‘worked’) of ‘Goya’ in VE (‘extremely VenerablE‘).
25, 26 TURN BACK
Spooner’s Rivulet Sailing Course retreat (4,4)
A Spoonerism of BURN (‘rivulet’) TACK (‘sailing course’).
26
See 25

 picture of the completed grid

65 comments on “Guardian Cryptic crossword No 30,022 by Brummie”

  1. DaveEllison's avatar
    DaveEllison

    Enjoyed this apart from the one that purports to be a Spoonerism

    Thanks both

  2. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    Quite tricky but enjoyable.

    I liked ONE STAR, BOTTICELLI, EXPECTANCY and TURN BACK.

    I had a half hearted look for a theme after the event but couldn’t find anything convincing.

    Thanks Brummie and PeterO

  3. Staticman1's avatar
    Staticman1

    Tricky in places. Not helped by an incorrect SNEERY (I was wondering how ‘for Clark’ was clueing RY).

    Another new fish with the RUFFE. I do wonder if you learn more about this doing crosswords than angling.

    Ticks for BOTTICELLI, SEXISM and THROTTLE.

    Thanks PeterO and Brummie

  4. William's avatar
    William

    Lovely stuff from the master setter this morning, with THROTTLE my choice for best in class.

    I wouldn’t describe a COWBOY as devious, though. Dishonest, inexperienced, or careless perhaps.

    Incidentally, the other day in Newport I saw an electrical contractor’s van bearing the names “Patel & Patel – you’ve tried the cowboys, now try the Indians”.

  5. bodycheetah's avatar
    bodycheetah

    Top ticks for BOTTICELLI, ONE STAR & SNOBBY which I initially thought was a somewhat obscure reference to the erstwhile singer of the Bay City Rollers

    SAGA CITY a neologism for places with an ageing population?

    Cheers P&B

  6. grantinfreo's avatar
    grantinfreo

    Pretty smooth from the Brum, and I thought burn tack was quite cute. Thanks B & P.

    Love the sign on the van, William @4.

  7. michelle's avatar
    michelle

    Enjoyable puzzle except for 12ac which I solved as S + NOBBY but I did not understand the NOBBY Clark reference. In general I am very weak on military references as it is not an area that interests me.

  8. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Thanks Brummie and PeterO
    Pleasant, not too hard. Favourites IMPASTO and BOTTICELLI.

  9. Shirl's avatar
    Shirl

    Held up by putting CERTIFY in 16a – all the right letters, not necessarily in the right order.

  10. Wellbeck's avatar
    Wellbeck

    This gradually fell into place and ended up being enormously satisfying.
    RUFFE was a new one for me, also the military nickname (I spent an eternity trying to do something with “Gable”).
    The Spoonerism was no lamer than they usually are – but it was more than compensated for by BLANK VERSE, SEXISM and ASSIGNED, all of which also had pleasing surfaces.
    Many thanks Brummie and PeterO

  11. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    I sensed a theme with ONE-STAR, TREK, THROTTLE, VOYAGE, VESSEL, SOLAR plus Space COWBOY and heavenly BODY maybe. Likes for BLANK VERSE (referring to Branagh presumably), SNOBBY, BOTTICELLI, SAGACITY, COWBOY and SEXISM.

    Ta Brummie & PeterO.

  12. Loiner's avatar
    Loiner

    I do not think there is any particular military connection to the nickname “Nobby Clark” and there is no mention of this in Wikipedia on its origins. Certainly, the Nobbys I have encountered had no military involvement.

  13. Crispy's avatar
    Crispy

    Just looked up the origins of “Nobby” in Brewer’s.

    “Nobby Clark is the popular name among service personnel for any man surnamed Clark or Clarke. It originated in the dressy, or nobby attire of a clerk (pronounce clark in the UK) of the 19th century”

    So yah, boo, sucks to Wikipedia!

  14. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    [Of course the Nobby that most of us English remember was Stiles! His nickname was a corruption of Norbert.]

  15. Arjeyeski's avatar
    Arjeyeski

    Was there a football player called Nobby Clarke?

  16. Wellbeck's avatar
    Wellbeck

    That’s interesting, Crispy!
    Personally, the only times I’ve heard “nobby” used is in Nobby No-mates…
    And I agree with Loiner, nobbies like that deffo don’t have anything to do with the military!

  17. Crispy's avatar
    Crispy

    Wellbeck – That’s interesting, too. I’ve only come across the term Billy No-Mates. Might be a regional thing.

  18. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    The only Nobby I knew was a Nobby Neilands.

    Also, I had a geography teacher called Mr Taverner who would give everyone a nickname when handing exercise books back; surnames beginning with N would often be prefixed with Nobby, myself included. There wasn’t a Clark around, so I don’t know if he’d have taken this route with them.

  19. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    I have a friend called Norman, who is referred to as Nobby.

  20. Lord Jim's avatar
    Lord Jim

    Excellent puzzle with lots of great clues. I think my biggest tick was for the surface of IMPASTO.

    I initially had the same thought as William @4 about “devious” in COWBOY, but I suppose it could reasonably apply to workers who deliberately charge for work they know to be substandard.

    “To be or not to be” was probably the most obvious example of BLANK VERSE but perhaps something from The Tempest could have been chosen as Ken Branagh is currently starring in that.

    Here are a few more theories about Nobby!

    Many thanks Brummie and PeterO.

  21. TomK's avatar
    TomK

    A very quick solve for a Brummie for once. Being neither an artist nor an angler I didn’t know IMPASTO or RUFFE, but that’s part of the reason we do these crosswords, no? I’d heard the nickname Nobby before, but thanks everyone on here for the explanation. Nobby Stiles,eh? Now here’s an iconic image, if I can work out how to post it. https://share.google/tV8YhVp70GX8donyE

  22. gladys's avatar
    gladys

    Took me ages to identify the rivulet beginning with B after TECK BACK made no sense.

    I enjoyed I’M PAST O, the “Martin’s residence” (alas, we don’t get them down our road any more) and my last in, BOTTICELLI. Tip for learners: always look very hard for alternative meanings for the capitalised word at the beginning of the clue.

    I think I knew the RUFFE was a fish, but the COWBOY builders I have encountered have not been particularly devious: just expensive and incompetent. One of my late uncles was a Nobby (actually Ernest) Clark, but like all his generation he had been in the military so who knows where he got it. Other traditional ones were the self explanatory Chalky White and Dusty Miller, but why was it “Smudger” Smith? (We had one at our school).

    Thanks Brummie and PeterO.

  23. poc's avatar
    poc

    Never heard that usage of Nobby. The only Nobby I can recall was the footballer Nobby Stiles.

    I would describe a cowboy in the sense of the clue as slapdash, not devious. They may be devious as well, but slapdashery and corner-cutting are their distinguishing features.

  24. Jacob's avatar
    Jacob

    This all raises the question of what cowboys say when they come across a badly botched cattle drive: “You’ve had a right old bunch of plumbers in here!”, perhaps.

  25. Layman's avatar
    Layman

    Not difficult, but unfortunately I’ve thoughtlessly put in CERTIFY instead of RECTIFY (as Shirl@9). On COWBOY, I agree with William@4 – a nice story btw. Thanks Brummie and PeterO!

  26. Nic's avatar
    Nic

    I managed most of this… but RUFFE, THROTTLE, EXPECTANCY, BOTTICELLI, TURN BACK and IMPASTO were beyond me! Many thanks to Brummie, and to PeterO for explaining. Onwards and upwards…

  27. Peter B's avatar
    Peter B

    Nice gentle puzzle from Brummie and thanks for some education from Peter O – RUFFE and NOBBY.
    Old age caused me to pause for 30 seconds wondering how CERTIFY was a synonym for right before the penny dropped. Like Botticelli spent too long trying to think of a painter with a D in the middle! I’m also with those who like the spoonerism!

  28. WhiteDevil's avatar
    WhiteDevil

    A fairly quick, fun solve. Took me a while for sNOBBY as I associate Nobby with Hall!

  29. Clyde's avatar
    Clyde

    Lovely crossword. The clue for VESSEL was funny and clever.
    Another favourite was the clue for ONE-STAR.

    William@4 – thanks for sharing that story. Very amusing – hope they get lots of business!
    TomK@21 – I’m Scottish, so shouldn’t really enjoy that clip of Nobby Stiles, but how nice to see a victorious footballer dancing with joy in the sunshine among smiling friends, instead of what we normally get nowadays – staged and artificial joy among silly fireworks and ticker tape.

    Thanks to Brummie and PeterO.

  30. Billy Mills's avatar
    Billy Mills

    I thought a Spoonerism needed to be a two-word phrase that is in current use, not sure that BURN TACK is quite that. Otherwise, a lot of fun.

  31. Blaise's avatar
    Blaise

    According to wikipedia nobby [clark] is cockney rhyming slang for shark, which fits well with what I can remember of Nobby Stiles’ style of play…

  32. Robi's avatar
    Robi

    Raced through this at the beginning but then got stuck in the SW corner. I was another carelessly putting in certify at first. I liked the well-hidden FREE-FORM, the rubbish tutorial for THROTTLE, ONE-STAR for Martin’s residence, the bully and lout that was a COWBOY, and Bill the artist aka BOTTICELLI. I didn’t particularly like BURN TACK as a weird phrase.

    Thanks Brummie and PeterO.

  33. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    THROTTLE a supreme example of the problem we solvers have in identifying at which end of the clue the definition lies, I thought. I haven’t come across the RUFFE in a while, nice puzzle from Brummie today, though…

  34. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    …and if I’m not guilty of advertising things, I am more familiar with NOBBY’s nuts rather than the association with Mr Clark. We tend to order them 20 packets at a time in this family…

  35. yogdaws's avatar
    yogdaws

    I also mistakenly had CERTIFY, otherwise a straightforward solve. Nobby Stiles is also the only Nobby I was aware of, I’m not familiar with its Clark/military association. (Incidentally, Nobby Stiles ended up living round the corner from my grandma, and I believe she actually met him during the times she went round collecting Christian Aid donations!)

  36. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    It’s not part of the Spooner contract that the words you’re coming from make a useful, let alone familiar, phrase. It happens sometimes (FLAT CAP > CAT FLAP) but mostly it’s only the phrase in the solution that is recognisable. The Guardian provided a guide here.

    I’m not sure it’s relevant to this puzzle, but the guide also mentions homophones “…get into the habit of saying words aloud in your head, sometimes having to ignore your own accent.”

  37. Scribbler's avatar
    Scribbler

    A masterpiece of misdirection: loved BOTTICELLI, THROTTLE and BLANK VERSE. Failed on COWBOY and entered an unparsed RIFLE for the NHO RUFFE. Nevertheless a delight from start to (DN) finish. Thanks to Brummie and PeterO.

  38. Otfordian's avatar
    Otfordian

    Lovely crossword thanks Brummie. Martin I had a geography teacher called Taverner – not SCD by any chance?

  39. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    [Martin @36
    Your link didn’t work, at least for me. I was interested to read what they said. I think Spooner clues are only justified if they make sense either way round. There was a good example from Fed a few days ago:
    From memory, Spooner’s greeting a Simpson (2,5)]

  40. Bayleaf's avatar
    Bayleaf

    Staticman @3. I also had sneery for 12ac. I accounted for it as S (southern) nee(outdated name) and RY (short for Rylan [Clark]). I was rather pleased with my parsing and only admitted defeat when 13d had to be Botticelli!

  41. Robi's avatar
    Robi

    Martin @36, muffin @39 – the link is here

  42. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Thanks Robi @42

  43. DerekTheSheep's avatar
    DerekTheSheep

    A fairly easy solve until the last three, AFTERTASTE, RUFFE, and COWBOY, which held me up for ages, despite being in retrospect no more difficult than the rest.
    I agree with many above in not finding “devious” being on the nail for that type of builder – “dodgy” would have been more like, I think.
    I particularly liked being given an easy-in with so many of the upper left clues being of the “buried word” type; very often, I have a bit of a blind spot for these, but not today!
    BOTTICELLI and IMPASTO (not yet, I hope, not yet…) were my ticks for today.
    Thanks Brummie and PeterO.

  44. aemmmnostt's avatar
    aemmmnostt

    Thanks Brummie and PeterO. Top marks for SEXISM.

    I know Nobby from the Discworld, but had no idea it was associated with clerks, Clarks, or Clarkes.

  45. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    Thanks Robi @42, not sure what I did there. I probably pasted in something completely unrelated!

    Muffin @43 Nobody would dispute they are most pleasing when they work both ways, and Fed nailed it there, but we wouldn’t see many of them if we raised the bar that high. I’d like to say otherwise, but it would be a lack of pies.

  46. DerekTheSheep's avatar
    DerekTheSheep

    The Nobby of my acquaintance has a surname other than Clark(e) – in his case, Nobby is short (sort of) for Nathaniel. Which is a pretty nobby handle, come to think of it.

  47. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Martin @46
    I wouldn’t mourn not seeing many of them – one of two sorts of clues I rather dislike (unless, of course, they are good ones!). The other dislike is subtractive anagrams, more because I find them difficult.

  48. gladys's avatar
    gladys

    PeterB@27: yes, I also spent a long time trying to think of an artist with a D.

  49. Dr. WhatsOn's avatar
    Dr. WhatsOn

    Re: Spoonerisms. I can usually get them, but for some reason don’t like them at all. I sometimes wish they went the way of the Chinese journey – sorry, dinosaur.

  50. Zoot's avatar
    Zoot

    William @4: I remember seeing that slogan on a builders’ van in Birmingham some years ago.

  51. HoofItYouDonkey's avatar
    HoofItYouDonkey

    Super crossword, though I dont agree that a COWBOY is a ‘devious worker’, more an ‘incompetent worker’.
    Thanks both.

  52. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    HIYD @52
    Yes, untrustworthy and/or incompetent rather than devious, I would have thought.

  53. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Thanks for the blog , ONE-STAR is neat and good advice from Gladys@22 , BOTTICELLI a good construction , perhaps SEXISM a reference to the special Genius puzzle linked to the 30000 .
    Goodbye NOBBY Clarke – a lost episode of Callan according to my DVD set .

  54. thecronester's avatar
    thecronester

    Struggled through as I seem to find with me and Brummie although in hindsight never sure why. Liked IMPASTO, BOTTICELLI and a few others. Thanks PeterO, and to Brummie.

  55. Hector's avatar
    Hector

    Blaise@31: …. but not so well with his false teeth, perhaps.

  56. mrpenney's avatar
    mrpenney

    Nothing to add, really, except to state that I’m alive and well. Haven’t posted much here lately for various reasons, none of which have anything to do with anyone but me. (After a year and a half doing five crosswords a day, I needed a month doing none, and I’m still easing out of that hiatus.) But I will note that I was unfamiliar with COWBOY in any sense other than a literal man herding cattle (or any derivative such as rhinestone cowboy, drugstore cowboy, midnight cowboy, etc.). The dishonest worker sense must be British.

    Also not familiar with Nobby Clark.

  57. Irishman's avatar
    Irishman

    My wonderful history teacher at Kings Macc back in the day was Nobby Clark. He was in the war, before getting his first at Caius, and he told us of being amongst those who liberated Belsen. His son, who was in my year, was never Nobby, so I think the military reference may be OK.

    Excellent puzzle and blog – thanks to both. BOTTICELLI loi, and seriously hard to get we thought.

  58. Mig's avatar
    Mig

    Loved the puzzle, but annoyed at being held up by loi 3d COWBOY. I couldn’t see why the definition would be “Devious worker”. Chambers just has descriptions that sound more like carelessness (inexperienced, unsafe, reckless, irresponsible, slapdash, inferior, shoddy) rather than deviousness. Don’t have time to read the comments yet, but no doubt someone will be able to justify it…

    Apart from that, I especially enjoyed the many oblique definitions, like 14a THROTTLE (“silence”), 16a RECTIFY (“right?”), 26a BODY (“Stiff”), 1d PRETENCE (“Cover”), 4d IMPASTO (“Laying it on thick”), 7d VESSEL (“junk”), 19d ANECDOTE (“account”)

    Thanks both!

  59. Cluseau's avatar
    Cluseau

    I fear it’s a sad fact that while most of us in the UK grew up with ‘cowboy’ meaning a cheery and well-intentioned but incompetent workman, the prevalence of scam culture has latterly given him a more sinister edge.

  60. sheffield hatter's avatar
    sheffield hatter

    I enjoyed this, having picked it up after 11:30pm and finished just before midnight, which is pretty quick for me. Found myself on the setter’s wavelength for once, or my GK coincided with Brummie’s perhaps. Particularly pleased to have remembered the RUFFE, but to be fair not until I had two of the three crossers. 😀

    The “Rivulet Sailing Course” was a touch of brilliance! (If Billy@30 or Muffin@39 had been at one of the Rev Spooner’s sermons I can imagine them calling out from the back of the church, “there’s no such phrase as shoving leopard” before storming out in a huff.)

    Thanks to Brummie and PeterO.

  61. Etu's avatar
    Etu

    I had a fairly similar time to SH 61 with this last night.

    Am I right in thinking that anyone with the surname Williams in the military may also be called “Bungie” (soft g) for some reason?

  62. William II's avatar
    William II

    Agree with my namesake and others on COWBOY – this really held me up. The last cowboy builder I encountered laid turf directly onto concrete. He at first insisted he’d removed the concrete, then became aggressive and claimed he’d never agreed to remove the concrete, and that it was standard practice to lay turf on concrete – if the grass was dying it just needed a bit of TLC!

    “Bully” and “lout”, certainly – but I’m not sure the lies had the subtlety required to be described as “devious”.

  63. Cellomaniac's avatar
    Cellomaniac

    I like crosswords that dwell in a world of whimsical wordplay, and that includes spoonerisms. I find them hard to get without some crossers, but I love them, and I second sheffield hatter’s comment at #61.

    I also put great emphasis on good surfaces, which is why I’m surprised that I liked 13d BOTTICELLI – a neat construction, but a less than stellar surface. (Perhaps the last part of the answer sold me.)

    Thanks Brummie for an excellent workout, and PeterO for the much-needed blog.

  64. Timb's avatar
    Timb

    My music teacher was Mr Clark – and universally known as Nobby. No military connection…

  65. Gee Dubya's avatar
    Gee Dubya

    This crossword was the sort of lazy, inchaote, over-constructed and unsatisfying drek that I’m used to finding in The Times, but appalled to see in The Graun, where many of the answers are inferrable only by finding the definition. Especially appalling examples: 24a (‘name-dropping’ – FFS!); 26A ‘Boy’ – really?; 14a just nonsense; 7d (‘husband’s’ – yawnsome twaddle)

    The setter should either retire or gen-up on standards.

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