Guardian Cryptic 29,568 by Brummie

Brummie is the compiler of this morning's puzzle.

After my first run-through, I thought this was going to be tough, but as longer entries revealed themselves, crossing letters gave me enough clues to put in answers first with parsing coming later in a couple of cases, especially my LOI, LEAK, where it took me a wee while to see the light. The northwest corner was the most difficult part, but once I saw SLEIGH, the others slotted in easily enough.

Thanks Brummi.

ACROSS
1 SLEIGH
Top stated means of getting mobile after a fall (6)

Homophone/pun/aural wordplay [stated] of SLAY ("top", as in murder). The fall in the clue refers to snowfall.

5 COME COME
Advance to be doubled – you don’t mean that, surely? (4,4)

COME ("advance" doubled)

9 TRIAL RUN
Dash on hearing ‘rehearsal’ (5,3)

RUN ("dash") on TRIAL ("hearing")

10 NAMELY
That is awfully mean to put one out (6)

*(mean) [anag:awfully] + L(a)Y ("to put" with A (one) out)

11 CHERRY PICKER
Bright-red tool on reversing crane (6,6)

CHERRY ("bright=red") + PICK ("tool") + <=RE ("on", reversing)

13 VERB
It indicates action of lover boy’s heart (4)

"loVER Boy" ['s heart]

14 OIL PAINT
One joining Plato in discursive medium (3,5)

*(i plato in) [anag:discursive]

17 OFFERING
Cancelled electronic dial for the present (8)

OFF ("cancelled") + E– (electronic, as in e-mail) + RING ("dial")

18 LEAK
Disclosure taken by peer (4)

A peer (i.e. one who pees) would be taking a LEAK

20 BREATHTAKING
Astounding, inspiring (12)

"Inspiring" = TAKING a BREATH

23 TINDER
Modern means of hooking upit should catch well (6)

Double definition, the first relating to a dating app, the second to firewood.

24 IMMATURE
Juvenile leads in iconic musical needing to grow up (8)

[leads in] I(conic) M(usical) needing MATURE ("to grow up")

25 AGRONOMY
Technological aspects of farming sparking angry mood almost (8)

*(angry moo) [anag:sparking] where MOO is MOO(d) [almost]

26 DURESS
Force of habit, eating last of tiramisu (6)

DRESS ("habit") eating [last of] (tiramis)U

DOWN
2 LORD
House lacks south wing? What a surprise! (4)

(House of) LORD(s) lacking S (south)

3 IRASCIBLE
Cross Siberia travelling with Communist League vans (9)

*(siberia cl) [anag:travelling] where CL is C(ommunist) L(eague) [vans]

4 HARDEN
A way to interrupt female only set (6)

A + Rd. (road, so "way") to interrupt HEN ("female only", as in hen party)

5 CENTRE OF GRAVITY
Point at which weight is concentrated = v (6,2,7)

V is CENTRE OF GRA(V)ITY

6 MONOPOLY
Moon shot? College is game! (8)

*(moon) [anag:shot] + POLY(technic) ("college")

7 COMIC
Sulphur extracted from beyond earth is rich (5)

S (sulphur, on the periodic table) extracted from CO(s)MIC ("beyond earth")

8 MILLENNIAL
Factory in lane, possibly one of a modern generation (10)

MILL ("factory") + *(in lane) [anag:possibly]

12, 22 PERFORMING ARTS
Ballet etc fragments prior to change (10,4)

*(fragments prior) [anag:to change]

15 ALLIGATOR
Gorilla at play, that has an enormous bite (9)

*(gorilla at) [anag:play]

16 HITHERTO
Success with female, initially triumphing only so far (8)

HIT ("success") with HER ("female") + [initially] T(riumphing) O(nly)

19 FILMED
Caught on camera covered in PVC? (6)

Double definition, the second relating to cling film.

21 AUDIO
Sound made by car (old) (5)

AUDI ("car") + O (old)

22
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71 comments on “Guardian Cryptic 29,568 by Brummie”

  1. MAC089's avatar
    MAC089

    It took me a while to get into this as well, especially the NW corner – even after getting the answer to 1 it took me a while to see the parsing. Thanks loonapick and Brummie.

  2. grantinfreo's avatar
    grantinfreo

    Forgot about top being kill or murder so sleigh took a while (thinking slay as in heavily defeat, which is more oblique). But yes, then the NW fell out. Good puzzle, ta Brum and loona.

  3. PostMark's avatar
    PostMark

    As our blogger found, LEAK held out til the end, though in my case, it fell just before the interlinked SLEIGH and LORD. I had twigged what the ‘fall’ might be in the former but took far too long to spot what the homophone was doing. ALLIGATOR my favourite clue by a country mile. IRASCIBLE and HARDEN make up the podium.

    Thanks Brummie and loonapick

  4. Tim C's avatar
    Tim C

    Favourite for me was C OF G not just because it was an early easier entry but because of my fondness for reverse clues. MONOPOLY was pretty good as well.

  5. Ilan Caron's avatar
    Ilan Caron

    thanks LP and B! Sleigh completely slayed me in the topping sense.

  6. Tomsdad's avatar
    Tomsdad

    The NW corner held out for me as well, but in my case seeing LORD helped me get SLEIGH with a smile of triumph. Agree with loonapick’s estimation. Working through the across clues first as is my usual process left quite a lot of gaps, but the crossers from the down clues helped as often happens. Liked 11 and 16 and my LOI 1 as well. Thanks to Brummie and loonapick.

  7. Dod's avatar
    Dod

    I looked at the across clues first and didn’t get a single one which is a first. I was beginning to worry but fortunately, HARDEN and C OF G opened the flood gates. Thanks to setter and blogger.

  8. Geoff Down Under's avatar
    Geoff Down Under

    I couldn’t parse SLEIGH nor LORD, and was unaware of what a poly is. I took a while to solve LEAK, but when I did it elicited a chuckle.

    Very enjoyable, I appreciated there being nothing obscure, and Goldilocks difficulty.

  9. NeilH's avatar
    NeilH

    Well, that was fun. Glad to see that I wasn’t alone in taking a while to work out SLEIGH and LORD.
    Pleasant chortle first thing in the morning about LEAK.
    Thanks, both.

  10. michelle's avatar
    michelle

    Took me a while to get started but it was enjoyable. SLEIGH was one of my last clues to be solved.

    Favourites: LEAK, CENTRE OF GRAVITY.

    Thanks, both.

  11. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Thanks Brummie and loonapick
    LORD and SLEIGH my last two as well. CENTRE OF GRAVITY was a write-in, though, so gave me a good start. Favourites OFFERING and the nice anagram for ALLIGATOR – surprised I haven’t seen it before (I think).
    IMMATURE is rather weak, as “mature” has the same meaning in definition and wordplay.

  12. HoofItYouDonkey's avatar
    HoofItYouDonkey

    Very good crossword.
    LEAK was the LOI and must have been borrowed from my namesake.
    Annoyingly, SLEIGH was given away on the Guardian website. That was a tough clue and I’m not sure that LORD would have been cracked without it. Why do people give answers like that? The mediators must still be on strike.
    Far to many clues to single out a favourite, but I will anyway, ALLIGATOR for the surface.
    Thanks both.

  13. Oofyprosser's avatar
    Oofyprosser

    LEAK caught me out.

  14. Anna's avatar
    Anna

    NAMELY

    I took this as ‘awful’ (as an anagram indicator) *(-LY MEAN).
    Then I was wondering where the ‘to put one out’ came into it!

    Good blog, btw.

  15. wynsum's avatar
    wynsum

    Thanks Brummie and loonapick for today’s offering with ‘gorilla at play’ firm favourite, but I also like the idea of an angry moo-cow, and the touch of Advent with COME LORD COME or come HITHER.

  16. Pauline in Brum's avatar
    Pauline in Brum

    I’m in agreement with the comments so far. LEAK and SLEIGH were the last ones in for me. ALLIGATOR is lovely. I also liked VERB, BREATHTAKING and C of G. I wonder if the last two have been done before?

    Another enjoyable challenge from Brummie and an accomplished blog from loonapick.

    [HIYD @12, why is leak your namesake, or is it best not to ask?]

  17. Blaise's avatar
    Blaise

    Me too for LORD and SLEIGH as LOIs. But I must have a mind like a sewer as LEAK took me a very wee while indeed…

  18. HoofItYouDonkey's avatar
    HoofItYouDonkey

    Pauline @ 16 – my Christian name is Paul! That’s all. Up the Blues!

  19. Eileen's avatar
    Eileen

    I had much the same journey as others. Like loonapick, (thanks for the extra smile) I took a wee while to see LEAK.

    My ticks were for SLEIGH (when I got it), NAMELY, DURESS (liked the ‘force of habit’), HARDEN, IRASCIBLE and the lovely ALLIGATOR.

    Thanks to Brummie and loonapick.

  20. HoofItYouDonkey's avatar
    HoofItYouDonkey

    Goodby Mishal Husain from Today, irreplaceable.

  21. Petert's avatar
    Petert

    I tried to convince myself that Zen is the way Sean Connery recovered from a fall in a Bond film in a desperate attempt to justify ZENITH for SLEIGH, making me another to find the NW harder than the rest.

  22. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    Yes, like HYD @12, I was given the easy way in by some arse giving SLEIGH away. All fell in smoothly after that and I also liked the image of the angry moo-cow, wynsum @15. COME COME, ALLIGATOR and C OF G, firm favourites.

    Ta Brummie & loonapick.

  23. Gervase's avatar
    Gervase

    I’m another for whom SLEIGH/LORD were the last to fall. As I had the crossers (not being an across-then-down solver), LEAK was a write-in 🙂

    Not for the first time, I’ll second Eileen’s choice.

    Thanks to Brummie and loonapick

  24. Shanne's avatar
    Shanne

    I’m with everyone else with SLEIGH and LORD being last in, and LEAK just before them. I didn’t quite have nothing on first pass of across clues, but it was sparse. Then all but the last handful in.

    [HoofItYouDonkey – I was listening to that too]

    Thank you to Brummie and loonapick.

  25. Redrodney's avatar
    Redrodney

    I had a similar experience to others, with SLEIGH the LOI (and a lucky guess). HARDEN probably my favourite, also CENTRE OF GRAVITY. What is ‘vans’ doing in 3d?

  26. Eileen's avatar
    Eileen

    HoofitYouDonkey @20 – absolutely.

  27. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    RedRodney @25
    Indicates first letters (van/vanguard – in the lead)

  28. ravenrider's avatar
    ravenrider

    Many seem to have found the top left as exasperating as I did, but not exactly breathtaking even though taken literally they mean the same thing. English is a strange language!

  29. Redrodney's avatar
    Redrodney

    Ah ok, thanks

  30. abraxas's avatar
    abraxas

    @20, 26 – reactions may vary. Best stick to the crossword?

  31. SamW's avatar
    SamW

    Couldn’t finish due to SLEIGH, LORD and LEAK – for the latter I even went through in my head each word it could possibly be, and LEAK seemed most likely but I couldn’t parse it until I came here.

    Found myself not enjoying the solving of a lot of these – in many cases I either couldn’t parse the answer (BREATHTAKING, CHERRY PICKER) or found them a bit flat on figuring them out.

    I did greatly enjoy C of G though (after correcting from the nonsensical ‘theory of’) and MONOPOLY was strangely satisfying to me.

    Thanks Brummie and loonapick

  32. Quirister's avatar
    Quirister

    LORD had me puzzled for a long time – especially because I couldn’t see what “wing” was doing. I think it might be a bit more subtle: rather than S = south, “lacks south wing” might be intended to mean “remove the end letter”, which is at the south end in a down clue.

  33. poc's avatar
    poc

    Similar experience to others in that at first it looked impenetrable and then the dominos fell quite easily. Couldn’t parse SLEIGH but once it was checked then LORD was obvious. LEAK was LOI.

  34. Eileen's avatar
    Eileen

    Quirister @32 – I think you’re right.

  35. nicbach's avatar
    nicbach

    Ravenrider@26: If it were logical, you would probably dash off the crossword in 5 minutes every morning and where would be the fun in that?
    I had zenith for 1a for a while, but I could not parse it, I’ve learnt that if the parsing escapes me completely, then I’m probably wrong, and then I got LORD. SLEIGH was my Loi but it took me forever to get my head round it. I needed both crossers for LEAK, but laughed when it clicked.
    An enjoyable puzzle, by no means easy, thanks both.

  36. Jacob's avatar
    Jacob

    A steady solve, with no real holdups for once, so I’m feeling a little proud. (I’m sure I’ll get my comedown tomorrow.) Pleased to have gotten LEAK (peer has come up before, I think) and the reverse clue at 5D.

    SLEIGH was my LOI; I knew it was a homophone but it took me a while to get the definition.

  37. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    I found this a bit impenetrable at first too, but once I began to insert on or two this all fell pleasingly. Though had to have Loonapick’s explanation of the parsing of SLEIGH (loi) and NAMELY. And as for the LEAK, that took a while, as for some reason I thought that the word for someone relieving themselves (tempted there to use one of several well-known euphemisms) had at least three E’s in the middle to give it extra oomph so it could be pronounced with two syllables. If you know what I mean…

  38. nicbach's avatar
    nicbach

    Living in Vietnam, I rarely listen to the Today programme these days, it comes on at the wrong time of day
    However, I was an avid listener when I lived at home and go back. I can understand Hoofityoupaulie;s feelings. Gently probing, she managed to put interviewees at ease, but got them to reveal more than the more aggressive ones.

  39. scraggs's avatar
    scraggs

    I enjoyed this though I’m not sure I was on Brummie’s wavelength today: the answers didn’t flow but then that’s not a bad thing either, I found it was worth the effort.

    Defeated by SLEIGH though, and one or two other parsings (including LORD) escaped me.

  40. scraggs's avatar
    scraggs

    HoofItYouDonkey @12 – many times I’ve reported blatant spoilers on the Guardian site, and nothing has ever been done about them, so no change there, sadly.

  41. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    I’m a bit confused, having read through the comments properly now, where exactly is/was the LEAK about SLEIGH…?

  42. Staticman1's avatar
    Staticman1

    Had TRAILBLAZING instead of BREATHTAKING for ages. Seeing that was incorrect took half the time especially as three of my down answers concurred.

    Couldn’t see SLEIGH so had to reveal that and hadn’t come across vans as an indicator to take the first letters before (only been doing these a few months). Otherwise a challenging but fun solve.

  43. Shanne's avatar
    Shanne

    [ronaldman @41 – a reply to a query about 1A by Ramanth from a ChrisBeeNZ about 10 hours ago. It’s why I don’t go to the Guardian comments much – too many spoilers when I want to make my brain work, not rely on someone else’s smartness, and being in the UK, this time zone means unless I’m solving in the wee small hours, the NZ and Australian solvers have already solved crosswords by the time I wake up.]

  44. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    Shanne@43…many thanks for clearing that up for me!

  45. Adrian's avatar
    Adrian

    ZENITH and YORK were the brain blockers that held me up for a whole circuit of Peckham Rye, great crossword, great blog, thanks both!

  46. Dr. WhatsOn's avatar
    Dr. WhatsOn

    SLEIGH/LORD me too! If there any universal theorems about cryptics, they must be about what’s going on in that corner today.

  47. Phil McHale's avatar
    Phil McHale

    Very nice crossword and blog – thanks Brummie and Loonapick.

    Did anyone do this on the new Guardian app? I tried and gave up, as I couldn’t find a way to look at the whole grid and the complete clues, as was possible before. Reverted to my PC.

  48. Pauline in Brum's avatar
    Pauline in Brum

    Phil @47, I don’t use the app but I remembered there was a post on yesterday’s Vulcan blog – it is @30, where one of our number suggests how to do it. Hope it works.

  49. Woody's avatar
    Woody

    Sleigh and Lord were last for me too.
    Liked duress and leak.
    Overall pretty straightforward though and a pleasant hour of puzzling (rather than a week:- still not finished Saturday’s prize Picaroon).

  50. Bodycheetah's avatar
    Bodycheetah

    I was a bit surprised when my 86 year old mother got TINDER instantly. And we had a multi-generational snigger at LEAK

    SLEIGH was our festive favourite

    Cheers B&L

  51. gladys's avatar
    gladys

    Petert@21: you weren’t the only one to try to shoehorn ZENITH into 1a (and HASTEN instead of HARDEN, briefly). Never did get LORD: I failed to identify the House.

    scraggs@40: I reported that spoiler, but I see it’s still there. They do sometimes get removed.

  52. scraggs's avatar
    scraggs

    gladys@51: me too. I’m glad to hear they have been removed at times. Thus far for me it’s felt like a pointless endeavour in practice (though I continue as a matter of principle).

  53. Mandarin's avatar
    Mandarin

    A game of three halves. A while to get started, then everything went in quickly after the excellent CENTRE OF GRAVITY, before ages spent staring at loi SLEIGH. I thought wrongly that BREATHTAKING was a bit weak until the blog put me straight. Wondered why AGRONOMY wasn’t just set up as a straight anagram of “angry moo” for a more pleasing surface. Favourites, among many pleasing clues, were FILMED and LEAK. Good Tuesday fare ie harder than Monday but not hard hard.

  54. Phil McHale's avatar
    Phil McHale

    Pauline @48 – thanks: that worked.

  55. AlanD's avatar
    AlanD

    I’m a big fan of Brummie usually, but I found some of the parsing a bit too convoluted for me this time, probably just me being a bit thick.

  56. AlanD's avatar
    AlanD

    @13, can happen to the best of us.

  57. Monkey's avatar
    Monkey

    I found CENTRE OF GRAVITY unsatisfactory from a Physics point of view; “centre of mass” was the preferred term in my young day, and I am unconvinced by the definition “point at which weight is concentrated”. It works well as a crossword clue though, so I will just have to grumble quietly in my corner. A good puzzle overall.

  58. StephenM's avatar
    StephenM

    I am 85, but, unlike Bodycheetah@50’s mother. TINDER was the only one to defeat me.
    Centre of gravity was my favourite, as a retired maths teacher

  59. Alphalpha's avatar
    Alphalpha

    Thanks both and lovely jubbly.

    There is a force in play in my solving that means that when I decide ‘CRUTCH’ is a candidate for 1a nothing can dissuade my enthusiasm until the crossers made it clear that ‘ZENITH’ must surely (…but it doesn’t parse….) and at this point the traffic won’t clear and what should have been LOI (lovely clue (but I preferred the witty dd BREATHTAKING)) was a regretted reveal (rr) or (since we haven’t had one in a while) a ttm.

    (Tea-tray moment)

  60. Steffen's avatar
    Steffen

    Succeeded with 20a, 12d and 15d.

    Nothing else.

    The kind people on crosswordsolver.org blogs tried their best to help me with 1a, but to no avail.

    Thank you for the blog.

  61. Simon S's avatar
    Simon S

    I think whether or not the g removes a spoiler is dependent on which moderator is on duty at the time.

    It does seem very variable.

  62. Julie in Australia's avatar
    Julie in Australia

    Very late to the party but I enjoyed it all – many firm favourites in the puzzle, a helpful explanatory blog for a couple of question marks, and an interesting array of comments from solver colleagues. Thanks to Everyone but most especially to Brummie and loonapick.

  63. paddymelon's avatar
    paddymelon

    Alphalpha @59. Never a comment so apt, brilliant and funny.

  64. Etu's avatar
    Etu

    There’s at least one toilet in the House Of Lords which says on the door “Peers Only”

  65. Alphalpha's avatar
    Alphalpha

    paddymelon@63: Blush! (Purr….)

    Etu@64: Lol!!

  66. Ted's avatar
    Ted

    As a physicist, I’m perfectly content for people to use the term “centre of gravity” more or less interchangeably with “centre of mass”, but Monkey @57 is quite right that the definition in the clue is simply wrong.

    (If a technical term is used in a nontechnical context with a slightly different meaning, I have no objection to using the “imprecise” nontechnical meaning in a clue, but I can’t see that that’s happening here: I know of no context, technical or otherwise, in which this phrase is used with this meaning.)

    I didn’t know that clingfilm was made of PVC — I always think of the latter as the hard plastic used in, e.g., plumbing. But apparently it is, so I learned something today.

    Because I’m still a schoolboy at heart, I thoroughly enjoyed 18ac (LEAK). I also thought that 12dn (PERFORMING ARTS) was a nice anagram.

  67. Jk's avatar
    Jk

    Sorry to be late, but can someone explain what “vans” is doing in 3d?

  68. Etu's avatar
    Etu

    Hi JK, “vans” refers to the leading letters of the preceding words, i.e. C, and L (“terms” is sometimes used to refer to the endings.)

    In this case they’re used along with “Siberia” as anagram fodder.

  69. Jk's avatar
    Jk

    Thanks Etu, I’ve not seen that used before.

  70. Bosun's avatar
    Bosun

    As always no one will see this as I’m so late. But I had LOOK. for 18ac. Seemed obvious, with peer being neither the lord nor the urinator,, but one who peers at things., or takes a look. I didn’t have the crosser from 8d, and so I was stuck for an answer there.

  71. Mig's avatar
    Mig

    Like many others I was defeated by SLEIGH and LORD — interesting to see how that was a very common experience. Like Petert@21, Adrian@45, and some others, I wrongly guessed the unparsed ZENITH for 1a, which wouldn’t let go, and which hopelessly blocked 2d…

    …but I did get LEAK, which had a very satisfying and delightful penny-drop!

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