24 comments on “Placeholder Guardian 29,304”

  1. Alastair's avatar
    Alastair

    Am I the only reader of this blog that buys the paper? Went to have a moan about Paul and the comments were closed.

  2. Crispy's avatar
    Crispy

    Alastair@1. If you read the closed blog, you’ll understand why.

  3. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Alastair I was the last to comment and I was fuming at the repeat. A new puzzle on line is no good to me and I have paid for a crossword that took me two clues to realize I had already done it. Perhaps the editor should spend a bit less time on their media profile and do the job properly.

  4. vinyl1's avatar
    vinyl1

    I think it’s a little unfair to blame the editor, since his job is to edit the puzzles, not to run the automated IT queue that feeds into the program that assembles the web pages we see.

  5. Shanne's avatar
    Shanne

    It’s equally still the same repeated puzzle on the Guardian app (not the separate puzzle app, but the newspaper app that I subscribe to). But if that updates it tends to take a few days.

  6. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Surely it is the editor’s job to choose which puzzle goes in the PAPER each day ? I do not care about web pages.

  7. Fiona's avatar
    Fiona

    Alastair @ 1

    I buy the paper every day. Have done for years. Long before I started trying to do the crossword – which was at the start of lockdown.

    Come here after I have done/attempted the crossword – never seen this happen before.

  8. Lechien's avatar
    Lechien

    Alistair @1, Fiona @7 – which puzzle was in the printed paper today? I’m presuming from Roz @3’s comment that it was the rerun one?

  9. Lechien's avatar
    Lechien

    Me @8, the comments on The Guardian indicate that the original crossword was in today’s printed paper, not the online replacement.

  10. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Lechien@8 it was a repeat puzzle today in the paper , quite a recent one.

  11. Bonnylass's avatar
    Bonnylass

    This is the worst thing that has happened to me today.

    Given how bad things could be – and are, for many people – I actually feel quite chipper about the whole thing!

  12. SinCam's avatar
    SinCam

    Why can’t someone parse the crossword, by Paul, that was printed in the paper? I took it on the train to London, managed to finish it but with several unparsed – help!

  13. Matthew Newell's avatar
    Matthew Newell

    @bonnylass. Your positive sentiment has quite cheered me. I had a day with guests in the office but a clearish schedule (ie had to look busy) – thus I had perfect opportunity to do two Paul crosswords; a red letter day

  14. Spooner's catflap's avatar
    Spooner's catflap

    SinCam – PeterO’s original blog on the repeated puzzle is still there if you just scroll down to below the blog on today’s Independent. Meanwhile, I had wondered in the small hours as the error emerged whether it was the old or the new puzzle that was in the print edition. On learning now that it was the repeat, I feel it was rather unfair to provide those of us who solve online with a fresh alternative. The more equitable thing to do, surely, would have been just to apologise and move on to tomorrow.

  15. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    SC@15 a very fair point about fairness. Perhaps the paper tomorrow will have two puzzles, the intended one plus the replacement from today.

  16. g larsen's avatar
    g larsen

    Not only had I completed the puzzle on its first appearance, I’d even sent in a comment to the blog. Yet still I struggled to complete more than half of it today before the penny dropped. Clearly memory is not what it was.

  17. Ui Imair's avatar
    Ui Imair

    Oh dear, what a mess. But there have been a few across the various papers this past year.

  18. Yes Me's avatar
    Yes Me

    I suggest we stop moaning. I pay my on-line sub because it’s a good newspaper (one I first read as a child when it was called the Manchester Guardian). The crossword’s a bonus and so what if there’s an occasional blip? Enjoy, and take an 11A from No. 29,305 if you are stuck ;-).

  19. grantinfreo's avatar
    grantinfreo

    From a bonny suburb in a peaceful democracy, I agree Bonnylass @11.

  20. Worworcrossol's avatar
    Worworcrossol

    I keep on hearing about the Manchester Guardian but have never seen it, I thought it stopped publication in 1958 or am I wrong, does this paper exist(no offence intended?) could someone out explain this to me please?,I checked the website the crossword placeholder 29,304 but could not find it, am I missing something.

    Stay safe and travel safely

  21. FrankieG's avatar
    FrankieG

    Over on the left there’s this list: “Recent Posts

    Guardian Cryptic 29,305 by Picaroon
    Guardian Cryptic 29,304 by Paul – the new online only puzzle
    Placeholder Guardian 29,304 – this blog
    Inquisitor 1841: Playing with a Defensive Formation? by Kruger
    Independent 11,651 by Grecian
    Guardian Cryptic 29,304 by Paul – the rerun of 29195
    …”

  22. FrankieG's avatar
    FrankieG

    The Guardian – ‘… founded in 1821 as The Manchester Guardian, before it changed its name in 1959.’

  23. FrankieG's avatar
    FrankieG

    …’No. 1. — SATURDAY, MAY 5, 1821. — PRICE SEVEN-PENCE.’ – 7d is about 3p – these days it’s £3.00.
    Small ads on the front page – ‘a black Newfoundland bitch…’

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