Guardian Cryptic crossword No 30,113 by Dice

This morning’s Guardian Cryptic comes from Dice and can be found here

I am covering for a regular blogger who is away without much internet access, so you’ve got me today …

Dice always does something extra in her puzzles, usually a theme, but I’ve blogged Ninas and pangrams in the Quick Cryptic, too. Today is no exception, lots of theme words based around the central word.

She started setting for the Quick Cryptic in the Guardian, but has expanded her range to set Quiptics and Cryptics and she also sets elsewhere.

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
7 CARAVAN
Rolling pad? (7)
cryptic definition – possibly a thematic word, but CARAVAN sites are found in most coastal areas
8 PATRIOT
Country lover in threesome caught by postman (7)
insertion (caught by) of TRIO (threesome) in PAT (postman) – the other animated children’s series like this is Fireman Sam and that is set in Pontypandy.

As people may know, I’ve had rather too much of patriotism recently, so I’m going with Ambrose Bierce in The Devil’s Dictionary: “Patriotism, n. Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name. In Dr. Johnson’s famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit it is the first.”

9 SELF
Will the author flog incomplete bit of fiction? (4)
charade of SEL[L] (flog incomplete) + F (bit of Fiction) – cryptic convention is “bit of” means the first letter – for this author
10 LAMPLIGHT
Artificial glow in hole, naked flame ahead (9)
ordered charade – [f]LAM[e] (naked flame) ahead of PLIGHT (in hole)
12 CADDY
Backs off homeward rapidly after scoundrel leaves box? (5)
charade of CAD (scoundrel) + (after) D + Y where they are the final letters (backs off) of homewarD and rapidlY – and a leaves box as they are often used for tea leaves.
13 MARINARA
Ran over, captivated by Tony’s forbidden sweetheart, saucy thing! (8)
insertion (captivated by) – RAN < (over, reversed) to give NAR inside (captivated by) MARIA (Tony’s forbidden sweetheart – in West Side Story)
15 HAUL
Draw is as much as bowler can take, perhaps, losing heart (4)
deletion – as much as a bowler can take is a HATFUL … thematic as haul is Welsh for sun, so is used a lot in Welsh names.
16 WALES
Nation with beer – ultimately Brains (5)
charade of W (with) + ALE (beer) + S (ultimately BrainS) – capital B as Brains is a Cardiff brewery – for the central clue and the theme
17 CAGE
Hutch, partner to Lacey, leaving New York (4)
deletion of NY (leaving New York) from CAG[n]E[y] (partner to Lacey)
18 STEP DOWN
Resign, depressed after returning beloved animals (4,4)
charade of DOWN (depressed) after PETS< (reversed) – to give STEP. PETS are beloved animals, returning = reversed
20 CORNY
ClichÃĐd rabbit straddling lover’s rear (5)
insertion (straddling) of R (loveR’s rear) in CONY (rabbit) – I’ve seen the coney spelling more often.
21 RURALISTS
Those out-of-town rush trails – rambling but not hard (9)
anagram (rambling) of (RUS[h] TRAILS)* the H is removed (not hard)
22 ISLE
Maybe Skye lies elaborately (4)
anagram (elaborately) of (LIES)* – quite a few Welsh islands to choose too
24 BEACONS
Warnings of danger from almost defeated Tories (7)
charade of BEA[t] (almost defeated) + CONS (Tories) – for a thematic word, although Brecon Beacons is now officially Bannau Brycheiniog
25 BLEATED
Sounded like a sheep audible at Edgbaston trapped inside somewhere? (7)
hidden (trapped inside somewhere) in audiBLE AT EDgbaston – lots of sheep in Wales.
DOWN
1 CAKE
It could be rock, marble or maybe even mud?! (4)
cryptic definition – rock, marble and mud, or even Welsh
2 DAFFODIL
Lifted part of chrysalid off a dying flower (8)
reverse hidden (lifted part of) chrysaLID OFF A Dying < – for one of the national symbols of Wales
3 VALLEY
Cwm venue cleared out to welcome everyone back from Hay (6)
charade of VE (VenuE cleared out) around (to welcome) ALL (everyone) + Y (back from haY) – Hay-on-Wye is a town on the Welsh borders, Cwm is the Welsh for valley.
4 MALLARDS
After capsizing, criticise involving fat swimmers (8)
insertion (involving) of LARD (fat) in SLAM (criticise) < reversed (after capsizing). It’s the most common duck in Wales, but they are pretty common all over England too.
5 DRAGON
Doctor – in the past Neath’s top fire-breather (6)
charade of DR (doctor) + AGO (in the past) + N (Neath’s top) – and another thematic word – found on the Welsh flag, as there are many traditional stories of Welsh dragons
6 PORT
Drink and drugs masking onset of rheumatism (4)
insertion (masking) – POT (drugs) around (masking) R (onset of Rheumatism) – lots of Welsh ports
11 MUMBLINGS
Stifled complaints when flashy jewellery confiscated by parents (9)
insertion (confiscated) – of BLING (flashy jewellery) inside (confiscated by) MUMS (parents) – Wales has The Mumbles
12 COAST
Players receiving nothing for progress without much effort (5)
insertion (receiving) of O (noting) inserted into (receiving) CAST (players) – rather a lot of coast in Wales too, having walked some of the Pembrokeshire Coast Path.
14 RUGBY
Sport wig, covering for baldy (5)
charade of RUG (wig) + BY (covering for BaldY) – for the Welsh national sport
16 WOODLAND
Odd lawn cultivated around old group of trees (8)
anagram (cultivated) of (ODD LAWN + O) where the last O comes from Old
17 CARDIGAN
Dressing up Cain with drag clothing (8)
anagram (dressing up) of (CAIN + DRAG)* for a piece of clothing named after the Earl of Cardigan – and Cardigan is a town in Wales (and CASTLE and bay), the Welsh County, in anglicised form, pre-reclamation of the Welsh language, was called Cardiganshire.
19 PIRACY
Crime quick, taking in Inland Revenue (6)
insertion (taking in) of IR (inland Revenue) into PACY (quick) – lots of Welsh pirates, Sir Henry Morgan was the model for Pirates of the Caribbean and Treasure Island
20 CASTLE
Shy exhausted little rook? (6)
charade of CAST (shy) + LittlE (little without the inside letters, so exhausted) – rook as in chess, CASTLE for the theme, as in take your pick.
21 RHEA
Big Bird runs, hearty, but half-cut (4)
charade of R (runs – cricket) + HEArty (half cut hearty) – for possibly this bird
23 LEEK
National emblem in France, the ‘Disheartened Deer’ (4)
charade of LE (in France, the) + ElK (disheartened deer) – for the other Welsh symbol

61 comments on “Guardian Cryptic crossword No 30,113 by Dice”

  1. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    Very straightforward solve and having rewatched How Green Was My Valley on Monday afternoon, the theme came early. I listed WALES, HAUL, RURALISTS, BEACONS, BLEATED (plenty of sheep), DAFFODIL, VALLEY, DRAGON, MUMBLINGS (similar to Mumbles), RUGBY, CARDIGAN CASTLE, RHEA (Welsh name) and LEEK. There were also more general geographical references like ISLE, PORT, COAST and WOODLAND, which may or not be linked. I liked PATRIOT, MARINARA and CAGE best.

    Ta Dice & Shanne for stepping in with a great blog as usual.

  2. michelle's avatar
    michelle

    Tricky and mostly enjoyable. I liked the theme as I spend about 3 months of the year in Wales.

    Favourite: MUMBLINGS, HAUL.

    Final two solved were 1d and 7ac.

  3. SimpleS's avatar
    SimpleS

    Thanks both. Mumbles is in Swansea, so I guess Mumblings could be (young) residents.

  4. bodycheetah's avatar
    bodycheetah

    Two themes spotted in a row which is a personal best 🙂

    Initially thought AGON must be the old name for Neath until my own daftness became obvious

    Ticks for PATRIOT, MUMBLINGS & BLEATED for the faux cricket reference

    Cheers S&D

  5. William's avatar
    William

    Rejoice with me…a double first… not only did I spot the theme (hardly ever) but actually used it to find a few answers!

    (Having lived in that fair country for more than 40 years and taken the tour of the Brains brewery in Cardiff, I’d have been ashamed to have missed it!)

  6. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    I’m with Bodycheetah @4 (update: and William @5) in being on an unusual roll of spotting themes and it actually helping.
    I thought the LAMPLIGHT might be mining-related.
    I wouldn’t say I strolled through this. As is my wont, I thought of the correct word for a few clues immediately, then traipsed off around the houses before realising I’d had the solution all along (RHEA, CASTLE, VALLEY) but it didn’t take too long.
    I liked STEP DOWN, LOI HAUL and PATRIOT (I thought Postman Pat might be Welsh but I was probably thinking of Fireman Sam – not something I make a habit of).

    Thanks Dice and Shanne.

  7. Balfour's avatar
    Balfour

    To get to MUMBLES, you just need to read down MUMBLINGS and take a 90 degree turn at L.

    Martin @6 I had the same thought about Postman Pat, and in checking I realised that he was created by WOODLAND Animations. Probably coincidence.

  8. Tomsdad's avatar
    Tomsdad

    A theme dear to my heart as well, and good to see the comments supportive of Cymru. 1d was my LOI, shamefully, as I’ve been eating picau ar y maen (Welsh CAKEs) this week. I agree with Shanne that PATRIOT has been misappropriated by thugs. Liked DRAGON and MUMBLINGS. Thanks to Dice and Shanne.

  9. Staticman1's avatar
    Staticman1

    This just proves I can miss a theme even when it’s spelt out in the middle of the grid.

    Friendlier stuff from Dice than the start of the week even if HAUL and CARAVAN took longer than the rest of the puzzle combined. Just not on wavelength with either of them.

    A lot to like in this it’s hard to pick the standout clues.

    Thanks Dice and Shanne

  10. Lord Jim's avatar
    Lord Jim

    Both PATRIOT and RUGBY made me laugh out loud at their surfaces. Great puzzle.

    Many thanks Shanne, and Dice, keep on rolling.

  11. Pat's avatar
    Pat

    It seems 16 September is Owain GlyndÅĩr day. The last native Welshman to hold the title Prince of Wales.

  12. Wellbeck's avatar
    Wellbeck

    Dice is rapidly becoming one of my favourite setters: so much wit, humour and inventiveness in those clues!
    Before I’d even started the thing I was struck by the image created by 8A – and the answer made me grin too.
    I always relish a good surface, but some of these were especially delightful: Cain in drag, bald rugby players, a trapped sheep distracting a match at Edgbastonâ€Ķ
    LEEK had me giggling, partly for the misdirection but also because it reminded me of that brouhaha a while back on FS about elks and deers.
    And DAFFODIL was a little cracker.
    So, thank you Shanne for the blog, and a pint of Brains to Dice: diolch for a thoroughly enjoyable start to my day.

  13. brian-with-an-eye's avatar
    brian-with-an-eye

    Lovely crossword and amazingly I got the theme again (I’ve missed far more obvious ones). Thanks, Dice and Shanne (thanks esp for the Bierce quotation. Spot on!)

  14. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    Balfour @7: nice spot for MUMBLES, was on the right track but totally missed it.

  15. poc's avatar
    poc

    Mostly straightforward but no harm in that as it’s smoothly done. Even I managed to spot the theme, appropriate on the day after Welshman Matthew Rhys became the first person ever to win two acting Emmys on the same night.

  16. TomK's avatar
    TomK

    Even I got the theme today, although obviously I didn’t pick up on all the Welsh references. Thanks for the parsing of HAUL; I was nearly there but couldn’t join the dots. Thanks everyone. And thanks for the thoughts on patriotism, perhaps one of the most overrated ‘virtuous’ qualities.

  17. AP's avatar
    AP

    Pretty breezy, this one, except for CAKE which I didn’t really attempt; as someone who’s not a pudding fan, I’ve never even heard of any of those! So a quick reveal there at the end; I don’t see much point in sweating over puzzles at the easier end of the scale, unless the clue in question seems particularly intriguing.

    I enjoyed PATRIOT (and Shanne’s quote), DAFFODILS, and MALLARDS even though I was expecting the swimmers to be speedos or suchlike.

    I thought CARAVAN a bit odd. I sensed it would be a CD and the A checkers gave it away, but is a rolling pad a particularly known thing? That it’s a thing at all is vaguely confirmed by Google, at least.

    Thanks both

  18. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    AP @17: I think it’s just a CD of somewhere to live on wheels, although as you say, there’s something vague on there to do with smoothing lines while painting.

  19. Dior's avatar
    Dior

    Apologies if this is taboo a day late. As one who does not often get much beyond Monday, I made great progress with yesterday’s enjoyable themed effort, but was well stumped by “Abrupt South American soprano…” How can South American on its own be sufficient to clue llama when thousands of other things or people may be South American? Is it just because once you spot that the answer is small that it is possible to reverse parse it? By analogy would the following be an acceptable clue
    ” Stir as Scot loses the heid (5)”
    That seems a step too far to me but is it worse than the above clue for “small”

    I am making progress with today’s having spotted a theme early for once.
    ..

  20. Nakamova's avatar
    Nakamova

    Fun (and educational) for this U.S. solver. I guessed at HAUL but the rest followed nicely from the cluing. Thanks to Shanne for explaining the less familiar connections to Wales, and to Dice for hitting the sweet spot in difficulty (for me, at least).

  21. Shanne's avatar
    Shanne

    Well done Pat @11 – I meant to check if there was a link to Wales with today’s date.

    Dior @19 – you can still post on yesterday’s crossword – PeterO blogged that one and I blogged today’s, so had to remember back to yesterday. I think I’d have muttered about the lack of a question mark, as it’s a definition by example – as you say, one of many South American residents. But it was a mixture of the answer matching the definition, that I could back parse it from the clue and that it tied into the theme that convinced me. And S for soprano comes from SATB choirs.

  22. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    Really enjoyed this Dice puzzleâ€Ķ
    And have now realised for the first time, with reference to 3d – and after a little extra googling today – that Hay on Wye is in fact in Powys in Wales. I stayed a few days in Clyro a while ago, just opposite across the River Wye. Every time I crossed the bridge to spend time browsing in Hay’s many wonderful secondhand bookshops I assumed I was back across the border in England, Herefordshireâ€Ķ

  23. Dior's avatar
    Dior

    Thanks Shanne#21. I did wonder about posting late on yesterday’s crossword, but assumed no-one would read a very late post.

  24. Joseph's avatar
    Joseph

    The intersecting 1D and 7A held me up for a while, and I came close to throwing in the towel, but once CAKE went in, CARAVAN followed immediately.

    I completely missed the theme, as usual, despite the large number of related clues.

  25. jeceris's avatar
    jeceris

    Thanks Dice and Shanne. (I think you meant ELK in the blog not EIK.)

  26. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Thanks for the blog and the grid and to Pat@11 for the little extra . My mother always insists that I am Welsh and I half agree with her . Good set of clues with PATRIOT being very neat , these days it seems to mean hater of other countries .
    AlanC@1 back to the top of the charts , keep off the rock CAKE today .

  27. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Dior @19 I also thought the LLAMa a bit tough and maybe the setter could have given a bit more but – the setter sets and we try to solve – that is the only rule .
    Shanne@21 , this does not need an example indicator , South American is by far the larger set . If the clue had llama to define South American then the convention would be to give some example indicator .

  28. Shanne's avatar
    Shanne

    Dior @23 – the blogger gets an email when anyone comments, so I get emails for comments going back weeks on the Quick Cryptics.

    jeceris @25 – lower case “L” lack of clarity strikes again. If you look all the missing letters I’ve indicated are in lower case. I just thought that people would spot that for elk, too.

  29. AP's avatar
    AP

    Dior@19&23, I for one don’t mind a bit if people post questions like that about previous puzzles on the current page; as you say, most people other than the blogger won’t be reading the corresponding page any more.

    I had exactly the same thoughts as you about (yesterday’s) SMALL. I thought it was a poor clue, but since I did the puzzle at the end of the day I wasn’t motivated to write anything; by that time it had all been said except precisely a grumble about that clue, and it seemed rather grumpy to post solely for that. I don’t much like clues that can only be parsed by back-parsing – and SMALL sits squarely in that category.

  30. wynsum's avatar
    wynsum

    Great theme (of course) – I especially liked MUMBLINGS, RUGBY and the different uses of cast for COAST & CASTLE.
    Thanks to Dice and Shanne.

  31. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Thanks Dice and Shanne
    I saw the theme for once. RUGBY favourite.
    Is there a singular/plural mismatch between POT and “drugs”?
    Technically a CWM is a specific type of valley – what would be called a corrie in Scotland or a cirque in France.
    [Brains Brewery used to sponsor the Welsh rugby team (I don’t know if they still do). The players had “BRAINS” on their shirts, except when the played in France, which doesn’t allow alcohol advertising, so they had “BRAWN” instead.]

  32. copland's avatar
    copland

    Mallards dabble, paddle and fly, but are not known for swimming.

  33. WhiteDevil's avatar
    WhiteDevil

    Cracking puzzle today, helped by the theme. I missed out on HAUL unfortunately.

    Ronald @22: Most of Hay is in Wales, but part of the settlement is in England.

  34. Van Winkle's avatar
    Van Winkle

    Dice@19 – the issue that those of us who are not lucky enough to have time to always do the crossword on the day it is published and catch up later is that posts on the wrong blog are potential spoilers. Others have commented in the past that even knowing one solution in advance can take the shine off a crossword. At least you didn’t commit the more grievous crime of revealing the theme from yesterday.

  35. tombo_h's avatar
    tombo_h

    Re your comment on 8A.

    Wait, it wasn’t Oscar Wilde who said patriotism was the last refuge of the vicious? Sean Connery lied to me in The Rock?

  36. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    Copland @32 “All the ducks are swimming in the water” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioudby-xooc
    (NB. This is not intended to prove a point!)

  37. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    VW @34: Dior made the comment @19.

  38. Van Winkle's avatar
    Van Winkle

    Apologies to Dice and Dior for my confusion.

  39. Ginger Tom's avatar
    Ginger Tom

    I parsed Haul as Handful (i.e. ten wickets) without the middle letters. Is hatful really a cricket term? My cricket knowledge is quite minimal but I cannot find any reference to this sense of the word.
    My last three answers took as long as the rest of the puzzle, but when the penny finally dropped on Caravan I thought it a very clever clue. Spotted the theme, and yes it helped
    Many thanks to Dice and to Shane for stepping in to explain all

  40. Alphalpha's avatar
    Alphalpha

    Ginger Tom@39: The bowler in this case is a bowler hat…..?

  41. MikeB's avatar
    MikeB

    #39 Not cricket – bowler hat

  42. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Perfect timing , yes a hat-trick of agreements for bowler hat .

  43. PostMark's avatar
    PostMark

    VW@34: are you telling me there was theme in yesterday’s puzzle? 😉

  44. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    According to the letters page today – AI is rubbish at tackling the Guardian crossword .
    I had brief thoughts of a Caravan theme today , they have some great song and album titles .

  45. Mi-Eesha's avatar
    Mi-Eesha

    Do forgive me if this is obvious – it’s my first time ever posting. Loved the theme and all the comments. Can anyone tell me why a bit of the grid is coloured a light blue above? TIA.

  46. Van Winkle's avatar
    Van Winkle

    PostMark@43 – because it was a Brockwell and therefore guaranteed to have a theme.

  47. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Mi-Eesha@45 , I do not see light blue ? Some entries are beige on my screen , these are the answers linked to the theme of WALES .
    Always good to see new names here .

  48. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    I can see it Mi-Eesha@45, it’s so faint it’s almost like an optical illusion on my PC, but it’s definitely there. Good question. I’m sure Shanne will explain soon.

  49. bodycheetah's avatar
    bodycheetah

    M@45 I can see a very light blue tint to MUMB, PIRACY & RHEA – I don’t think it’s significant

  50. Shanne's avatar
    Shanne

    Mi-eesha @45 definite and not so definite theme words. The obvious ones I coloured properly, the less definite in that very pale blue, so MUMBL .. because it didn’t really spell MUMBLES without borrowing from WALES

  51. Van Winkle's avatar
    Van Winkle

    … and Dior had already revealed that the crossword was themed.

  52. phitonelly's avatar
    phitonelly

    CONY in 20a is also theme related, of course, being the key ingredient in the famous Welsh Rabbit 😉 .
    I stupidly put an E on the end of MARINAR, misremembering Tony’s forbidden lover and cheated the first letter of CARAVAN, which I simply could not see with those awkward crossers. I spent a while at 20d trying to recall what a baby rook’s called, to no avail.
    Good puzzle. Thanks, Dice & Shanne, for stepping in.

  53. Valentine's avatar
    Valentine

    Wellbeck@12 Elks and deers?
    Not only was Cagney the partner of Lacey in 17ac CAGE. but Hutch in the same clue is the partner of Starsky in another TV series I haven’t watched. I dunno if this is a micro-theme. Maybe a micro-theme of rabbits, who live in hutches and are implied elsewhere I think.

    muffin@32 … or a combe in England, where some place names end in “-combe,” such as Ilfracombe.

    What’s Welsh about coasts? Lots of countries have them. We can’t all be Switzerland.

    Coney Island (which I also spell with an E) is a famous amusement park in the New York City area. When my mother was little she thought the place was an island with a lot of pine cones on it. It isn’t an island any more, though it used to be.

    Thanks to Dice and Shanne.

  54. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Valentine @53
    Not exactly. Cwms, corries etc. are the hollows in a mountain which were the sources of glaciers. There were never any glaciers south of the Bristol Channel!

  55. Crispy's avatar
    Crispy

    Muffin @54. There were, and still are, glaciers in New Zealand, which is well south of the Bristol Channel 😉

  56. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Crispy @55 🙂
    I meant in England, of course.

  57. Cedric's avatar
    Cedric

    Regarding late postings I’m one of those that trots to the newsagent to get my graunie every morning which means I do the crossword about 10 or 11 o’clock after I’ve read the paper By this time there’s often dozens of postings . So I read the blog which is very useful but very rarely post as I assume nobody will be reading any comments!

  58. AP's avatar
    AP

    Van Winkle@34, that’s a very valid and reasonable point. Perhaps the etiquette should be to post in detail on the proper page and then merely post a notification on the current page asking if anyone would mind taking a look. I would be someone who typically would.

  59. Hector's avatar
    Hector

    I don’t do the crossword until the evening so I’m always a latecomer here and usually find that anything I am inclined to say has already been said. I did however comment about LLAMA and South American yesterday because at that time nobody else seemed to have mentioned it.
    Wales has lots of valleys but I will risk stating the obvious by saying that VALLEY is also a village (with an RAF station) near Holyhead.

  60. nametab's avatar
    nametab

    Cedric@57: Always worth a late post, somebody might see it

  61. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    â€Ķa late posting by me now, but many thanks for that info White Devil@33â€Ķ

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