Guardian 30,070: Pangakupu

Thanks to Pangakupu for another expertly-crafted puzzle.

The traditional Māori Nina is the word HAURUA, which appears horizontally and vertically in the middle row and column. The first reference I found was to “The location of a large hui [conference] in 1857 in the Ngāti Maniapoto territory where confirmation of the selection of Pōtatau Te Wherowhero as the first Māori King. It was also affirmed that the Kingship was to be hereditary in his family. Pōtatau had been selected as King at Pūkawa on the western shore of Lake Taupō in November 1856,” but according to this, it can also mean “halfway”. I believe this is Pangakupu’s 50th Cryptic: usually there is some reference (often rather obscure) to the sequence number in the puzzles, and 50 is HALF WAY to 100 (and the Ninas are half way across and down the puzzle).

 
Across
1 BACKLIGHT Rugby player lacking weight put in the shade? (9)
BACK (Rugby player) + LIGHT (lacking weight); backlighting isn’t exactly putting something in the shade, but I get the idea
6 MOTTO Words to live by, not initially arse-backwards (5)
Reverse of BOTTOM (arse) less its first letter
9 GILET Joe, for one, allowed a padded jacket (5)
GI (GI Joe, nickname of a US soldier) + LET
10 RAIN DANCE Call for monsoon? Mumbai resident dropping one in a hurry (4,5)
INDIAN less the second I in RACE
11 MISERY GUTS Tigress, with ‘Yum!’, mauled grumbler (6,4)
(TIGRESS YUM)*
12 TYPE Some charity, perhaps, would be kind (4)
Hidden in chariTY PErhaps
14 PAINTED Showed desire to embrace one in make-up? (7)
I (one) in PANTED
15 DATASET US lawyer ready to accept thanks for information (7)
TA (thanks) in DA (District Attorney) + SET (ready)
17 AT LARGE A goal almost entirely securing first place in league, in general (2,5)
L[eague] in A TARGE[t]
19 DREYFUS Duke’s decline largely involving unknown figure in French scandal (7)
D + Y (unknown) in REFUS[e] (to decline an offer)
20 ITCH Desire to lose, discarding diamonds (4)
DITCH (lose) less D
22 PERMITTING Allowing style’s suitable, but not fine (10)
PERM (hairtstyle) + FITTING less F
25 AMBIGUOUS Pompous Unionist blocking a timid one, mostly? That’s of doubtful value (9)
BIG (pompous) U[nionist] in A MOUS[e]
26 AMIGO Friend I’m backing to invest in a success (5)
Reverse of I’M in A GO (as in making a go of something)
27 CLANG Big noise in family group estranging nearly all? (5)
CLAN (family group) + GROUP less almost all its letters
28 GALAPAGOS Drink in the past contributing to atmosphere in islands (9)
LAP (drink) AGO (in the past) in GAS (atmosphere)
Down
1 BY GUM How stamps are affixed? Crikey! (2,3)
Double definition
2 CELESTIAL Starry Parisian is one active in political group (9)
EST (French “is”) + I (one) + A[ctive] in CELL
3 LITERATURE University brought in rare title, fantastic writing (10)
UN in (RARE TITLE)*
4 GARAGED Book salvaged from rubbish daughter stored (7)
GARBAGE less B + D
5 TWISTED Peculiar warped wits hosted by talks provider? (7)
WITS* + TED
6 MODE A way with meter and rhyme? (4)
M (meter – US spelling of the unit of length) + ODE (a rhyme)
7 TUNNY Fish like the location where fish are readily shot? (5)
Referring to the expression “shooting fish in a barrel”, meaning something easy; a TUN is a beer barrel, and something like it is TUN-NY
8 OPERETTAS Stereo apt to distort musical works (9)
(STEREO APT)*
13 STREET LAMP US actress swallowing whisky up – by the way, it’s illuminating (6,4)
Reverse of MALT (whisky) in (Meryl) STREEP
14 PHARISAIC A chap is upset about scripture lessons being hypocritical (9)
RI (Religious Instruction) in (A CHAP IS)*
16 SUFFICING Promoting us following cake decoration appearing to be enough (9)
Reverse of US + FF (following, in references to writing) + ICING
18 ERELONG Billionaire probing work unit soon (7)
ELON (Musk – now a trillionaire, at least on paper) in ERG (unit of work)
19 DAMOSEL Starring role involving some cut upset the old girl (7)
SOM[e] in LEAD (starring role), reversed
21 COBRA Government committee’s firm support (5)
CO (company, firm) + BRA (supporter) – this committee
23 GROSS Unrefined Imperial measure? (5)
Double definition
24 AGOG Eager to see name removed from a medal (4)
A GONG less N[ame]

63 comments on “Guardian 30,070: Pangakupu”

  1. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Thanks Pangakupu and Andrew
    I found this straightforward, though I didn’t understand the definition for BACKLIGHT (and it seems you have some doubts too), or see why “pompous” equates to BIG. Lots to like, though; I was pleased to remember DREYFUS, and like the construction of GALAPAGOS (when I just had the P and G I tried to justify CHAMPAGNE!)

  2. MikeB's avatar
    MikeB

    I think it may be WITS* within TED to justify the ‘hosted’ but nho TED either way.
    Thanks both.

  3. Tomsdad's avatar
    Tomsdad

    Thanks to Andrew for explaining TUNNY. I didn’t understand the shooting reference, though the answer was obvious once the crosses were in place. However, I found this more straightforward than the usual puzzles from this setter. I recognised the reference, but it took me a while to remember DREYFUS. Liked PHARISAIC, STREET LAMP and DAMOSEL. I await the usual objection to erg as a unit of work in ERELONG, but I think it’s a word that’s too useful to setters to forego. Thanks to Andrew (not least for explaining the nina and relevance thereof) and Pangakupu

  4. Fuddleduddy's avatar
    Fuddleduddy

    Yes great stuff on the Maori word Andrew. I raced through this (by my standards at least) but failed in fact on TUNNY where I had chucked in a hopeful ‘tanky’.

  5. bodycheetah's avatar
    bodycheetah

    I enjoyed this but felt the subtraction technique was a little over-used? I counted 11 including five in a row from 17a onwards

    ERELONG was one of my faves regardless of what the quibblers may say

    Never seen that spelling of DAMOSEL but what else could it be? “Damsel in distress” feels like it was born to be in a crossword clue for gongs/awards etc

    Cheers P&A

  6. Matthew Newell's avatar
    Matthew Newell

    Phi/Pangakupu are always a delight.

    Thanks Setter and Blogger

    By the way – and I prefer your explanation of the Nina – Hau Rua as two words can mean Double Hit; which, as we see it twice, is also quite satisfying

  7. Drofle's avatar
    Drofle

    Nice puzzle, but I found it surprisingly quick for a Pangakupu – not much struggle required. Liked PHARISAIC and RAIN DANCE in particular. Thanks to P & A.

  8. Martin's avatar
    Martin

    I enjoyed this from a setter who I never find easy, and didn’t today. Solving and parsing everything was satisfying. MISERY GUTS and STREET LAMP stood out.

    Thanks Pangakupu and Andrew.

  9. khayyam's avatar
    khayyam

    Nice puzzle. Still a bit unclear on the nina though. Found much the same as you Andrew but why are we halfway to 100, and why are there two of them? I feel there must be more to it…

  10. Crispy's avatar
    Crispy

    I know I’m being an 11 across, but I don’t like M for METER. Yes, I know it’s in Chambers, I know it’s how the Americans spell it, but in SI the word is METRE. (Even the flipping spell checker on here doesn’t like METRE!)

  11. Mitz's avatar
    Mitz

    This is indeed Pangakupu’s 50th Daily Cryptic for the Guardian.

    I have “hau rua” (two words) translating as “second wind”.

  12. DaveEllison's avatar
    DaveEllison

    mikeB at 2

    Ted talks

  13. Layman's avatar
    Layman

    Enjoyable throughout; always glad to see a puzzle from Pangakupu. Though I didn’t find it difficult overall (except TUNNY, where I knew neither it nor TUN), I misspelt DREYFUS being too lazy to parse it 🙁 Liked STREET LAMP. Thanks Pangakupu (looking forward to the next 50) and Andrew for a neat and concise blog!

  14. DaveEllison's avatar
    DaveEllison

    Sorry Andrew I didn’t notice your link

  15. Jack Of Few Trades's avatar
    Jack Of Few Trades

    No objection here for “erg” which is absolutely and precisely a measure of work in physics, just not the SI one. Not sure what the objection might be either. However, I agree with Crispy@10 that a “meter” in British English is a measuring device and the unit is “metre”. My Chambers has only the latter listed under “m” so I think an American indicator is needed here.

    In photography, if someone is strongly backlit then you only see their silhouette – it can be a problem photographing someone with the sun behind them but is also used as an effect in stage shows and in films (the shadowy figures backlit by an explosion for example). Hence “put in the shade” worked just fine for me.

    Many thanks Pangakupu and Andrew.

  16. Pangakupu's avatar
    Pangakupu

    I would note that it is both my fiftieth Pangakupu puzzle and Guardian grid No. 50, so 50-50, and half-and-half. Nice that I could get the two six letter Ninas positioned in the appropriately numbered grid.

    Now I look at it, ‘meter’ might simply be a typo that survived all the way from my forefinger to publication…no obvious reason for that spelling. ‘Erg’ as unit of work confirmed by all three major dictionaries and (going back too many decades) my O-level physics class.

  17. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    I parsed TWISTED as MikeB @2 and like him, hadn’t heard of TED. I found the double Nina but had no idea about its relevance to 50, so thanks Andrew for making sense of that. As others have said, this was very straightforward for the setter, and as enjoyable as ever. The DREYFUS scandal was covered in a podcast, I was listening to last night about the anti-semitic Coco Chanel working for the Nazis, so that was a write-in. I liked RAIN DANCE, PERMITTING and GALAPAGOS.

    Ta Pangakupu for dropping in and explaining 50, very clever & Andrew for a great blog.

  18. miserableoldhack's avatar
    miserableoldhack

    I think the metre/meter referred to in MODE is nothing to do with the SI unit of length but relates to poetic metre – iambs, trochees and the like. Makes no difference, of course, but it does make more sense of the surface reading.
    Anyway, really enjoyable puzzle and blog, thanks both.

  19. gladys's avatar
    gladys

    I didn’t understand the allusive TUNNY: before I had the initial T I thought it might be FINNY (fish-like).

    Otherwise a nice straightforward solve: I leave Maori ninas to those who know about these things. I liked the neat surface for TYPE.

  20. michelle's avatar
    michelle

    Tough puzzle, took me a while to get going and there were a few answers that I parsed afterwards (ie “solving” back to front”) such as 25ac, 28ac, 13d.

    I couldn’t parse the G in 27ac CLANG (humph) and 7d ‘like the location where fish are readily shot’ (ugh).

    New for me: BACK = rugby player; DAMOSEL; PHARISAIC = hypocritical; ERELONG written as one word; TUNNY = tuna.

    23d I learnt that the Imperial measure GROSS came from French grosse douzaine, literally ‘large dozen’.

    I parsed TWISTED as WITS* within TED like MikeB@2 rather than WITS* plus. TED

  21. William's avatar
    William

    Lovely puzzle and thanks to P for dropping in.

    I still think Robert Harris’s retelling of the Dreyfus affair was one of the most unputdownable books I’ve read.

  22. KateE's avatar
    KateE

    Damosel is surely a young woman rather than an old one, or am I missing something?

  23. Andy in Durham's avatar
    Andy in Durham

    KateE@22 it is an old spelling of what is now damsel

  24. poc's avatar
    poc

    I knew DAMOSEL from G&S’s ‘Patience’, though they spell as ‘damozel’:

    When I go out of door,
    Of damozels a score
    (All sighing and burning,
    And clinging and yearning)
    Will follow me as before

  25. khayyam's avatar
    khayyam

    The nina does make more sense as 50/50 but I don’t think I would ever have managed the grid number aspect on my own.

  26. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Thanks for the blog , some clever clues , especially CELESTIAL .
    I did a similar count to Bodycheetah@5 and found 10 clues where a single letter was being removed in wordplay . all valid and fair enough but a trifle overdone .
    Tomsdad@3 and JackOFT@15 , I agree the ERG is a valid unit , just not SI , and it is still widely used in astrophysics .

  27. Lord Jim's avatar
    Lord Jim

    Entertaining puzzle. The actress in STREET LAMP seems to confirm that the Guardian style guide does not in practice apply to the crossword. And the same with the tigress in MISERY GUTS? — amusing surface.

    BY GUM is supposedly a Yorkshire expression, though having lived in Yorkshire for about fifty years I’ve never heard anyone say it (except as a joke). But you certainly can’t imagine it being said in a cockney accent for example.

    Thanks Pangakupu and Andrew.

  28. SimoninBxl's avatar
    SimoninBxl

    That was fun. Agree with Roz@26 and others re ERG and re the number of subtraction clues. Thanks to P and A re explaining the Nina.

  29. William's avatar
    William

    A propos of nothing at all, I see that Mr Mugabe’s name pronounced backwards is E ba gum!

  30. Joseph's avatar
    Joseph

    I found that gentler than usual from Pangakupu but none the worse for that. To my own surprise I had heard of TUNNY. DAMOSEL was new to me, but fairly clued and reasonably guessable. The trickiest GK for me was COBRA, something that did not exist in my time in Britain.

    Congratulations to Pangakupu on the milestone, I’m looking forward to the next 50.

  31. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Going back to count the deletions (I agree there are a lot – I didn’t notice this at the time), I saw a minor typo, Andrew – LITERATURE is U and RARE TITLE, not UN.

  32. Valentine's avatar
    Valentine

    Enjoyed the puzzle. Forgot to look for the nina — I can usually spot it even though I don’t speak a word of Maori.

    What is the COBRA committee?

    Thanks, Pangakapu and Andrew.

  33. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Valentine @32
    Andrew gave a link (though the text doesn’t stand out very clearly!)

  34. Dr. WhatsOn's avatar
    Dr. WhatsOn

    I too noticed the number of deletions: there comes a point where you think it might be theme-related, but I guess not (this time).

    I knew that RUA meant two from my time in NZ earlier this year, but that’s as far as I got with the Nina. Enjoyed the puzzle, tx!

  35. Queenslander's avatar
    Queenslander

    Thanks Pangakupu and Andrew. There I was patting myself on the back for knowing words like Dreyfus and pharisaic and damosel, and along comes something called a ‘nina’ which many mention but no one explains. That took a bit of looking up. Well, you learn something everyday.

  36. Jack Of Few Trades's avatar
    Jack Of Few Trades

    Valentine@32: UK Govt “Cabinet Office Briefing Room” (COBR, usually given as Cobra) is an ad hoc emergency committee pulled together for a rapid response to a crisis such as terrorist attack, pandemic, wildfires. Typically the PM chairs it.

    Definitely UK-centric knowledge.

  37. Robi's avatar
    Robi

    I liked the DREYFUS Duke’s decline, the book salvaged from GARAGE(D), the CELESTIAL Parisian, and the illuminating STREET LAMP.

    Thanks Pangakapu and Andrew.

  38. Bobandcogs's avatar
    Bobandcogs

    Jack of Few Trades @33 & Valentine @ 32: Cabinet Office Briefing Room A … guess there’s a B somewhere!

  39. WhiteDevil's avatar
    WhiteDevil

    Perfectly positioned for a Tuesday. Thanks to both

  40. Dave_W's avatar
    Dave_W

    For 18 down I have no problem with ERG. My only quibble is that I’d have thought of ERELONG as a (3, 4) rather than a (7).

  41. Andy in Durham's avatar
    Andy in Durham

    both ERELONG and ERE LONG are given as acceptable alternatives in Chambers.

  42. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    With a T and an N in place at 7d I wanted to impetuously put TENCH in for the fish. Still not a great deal wiser about TUNNY, however. BACKLIGHT took a bit of convincing about. Last one in was the scandalous French figure at 19ac. Many thanks for a challenging solve today Pangakupu…

  43. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    No-one has picked up on my comment @1 about pompous=big. I can’t see that they are equivalent. In what context could one be substituted for the other?

  44. Alphalpha's avatar
    Alphalpha

    muffin@43: ‘pompous ass’? Perhaps not…..

  45. HoofItYouDonkey's avatar
    HoofItYouDonkey

    A couple of NHO’s TUNNY and DREYFUS, but all fair and good fun.
    Thank both.

  46. William's avatar
    William

    muffin @43: re pompous = big, couldn’t agree more. I was hoping someone would posit a defence.

  47. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Me @43
    There are lots of much closer synonyms he could have used for BIG than “pompous”. Off the top of my head, how about “stout”?

  48. Larry's avatar
    Larry

    Queenslander@35 – the FAQ on this site, found under the ‘info’ tab at the top of this page, gives explanation for things such as ‘what is a nina?’.

  49. Wellbeck's avatar
    Wellbeck

    Thank you for the blog, Andrew: I learned a lot.
    I’m with muffin regarding pompous and big.
    4D took longer than it should, largely because I initially had trouble believing “garage” could be a verb – although I’m aware of “housed”. (I suppose it’s also possible to be officed? Palaced? Cottaged?)
    TUNNY was a new word for me.
    I liked the surfaces for OPERETTAS, AGOG and COBRA.

  50. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Stop acting big – will do and there is no need to quote Chambers93 .

    Ronald@42 – Teasing football fans is like shooting fish in a barrel – proverbially easy . The location where fish are readily shot is a barrel = tun .
    Like this location = tunny – in crosswordland .
    You have stolen my rightful position .

  51. Coloradan's avatar
    Coloradan

    muffin@43: how about this from Plum’s The Coming of Gowf:

    “The Grand Vizier, a man who had been getting a little too big for his boots of late…”

  52. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Coloradan @51
    I suppose so – a better example than Roz’s, anyway. The implication for me is more vain than pompous, though.

  53. PhilB's avatar
    PhilB

    Fair but tough. I have to register this as dnf as I went off the rails a couple of times and needed the check word button. Nho pharisaic or damosel. Like fd@4 I thought the fish must be a tanky until the penny dropped.
    Thanks to Pangakupu and Andrew.

  54. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    Me @52
    …or “bossy”, whereas “pompous” is more “self-important”.

  55. Jack Of Few Trades's avatar
    Jack Of Few Trades

    bobandcogs@38: The UK govt website on contingency planning only talks about “COBR” and I can find no official mention of a “briefing room A”. I suspect it is a ‘backronym’ from the pronunciation of COBR as “cobra”, though it is commonly quoted e.g. by AI summaries without a source I have been able to find.

  56. Not That Paul's avatar
    Not That Paul

    A couple of NHO and a couple I couldn’t parse fully, but I completed today much more quickly than yesterday, so pleasing overall.

  57. ronald's avatar
    ronald

    Roz@50, not entirely sure what you mean by your rightful position, unless 42 is significant. We certainly seem to be sharing the RO whatever it is, but with a different hued background…
    By the by, a long time after everyone else had given up all they wanted to say on Fed’s puzzle on Wed 30065, I responded @80 to you re the soccer theme…

  58. jon's avatar
    jon

    in 2 down, why is it “a” for active?

  59. Roz's avatar
    Roz

    Jon@58 I think in the military , A means on active service .

    Ronald@57 , AlanC monopolises Number 1 so 42 is my place for obvious reasons .
    My screen has gone haywire so I can’t find the Fed puzle .

  60. Crispy's avatar
    Crispy

    Jon @58 – All I can say is Chambers gives “a” as an abbreviation for active.

  61. AlanC's avatar
    AlanC

    Roz @59: you’re such a cod with always an angle, forever putting me in my plaice, however I don’t wish to carp. La fin.

  62. muffin's avatar
    muffin

    AlanC @61
    That post seems a bit fishy

  63. Mig's avatar
    Mig

    Nice puzzle that fell gradually through the day, as time allowed. After research, loi was 7d TUNNY — nho, nice pdm, and amusing. Like Fuddleduddy@4 and others I found out there’s no TANKY fish

    I liked 12a TYPE (not hard, but a nice surface), 15a DATASET (nice wordplay), 27a CLANG (great word), 6d MODE (“meter and rhyme”), 13d STREET LAMP (definition), 14d PHARASAIC (great gettable new word), 16d SUFFICING (delicious!)

    Agree with bodycheetah@5 et al, too many subtractions — maybe generally overused by setters?

    Thanks both, and congrats Pangakupu for the milestone!

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