Guardian, 24503/Rover
Posted by mhl on September 25th, 2008
This was quite a fast puzzle to do, despite some of the vocabulary or meanings being unfamiliar to me, particularly in the north-east corner. There are couple of clues I wasn’t wild about, which I’ve learned typically means I’ve missed some subtlety that people will help with in the comments. :)
| Across | |
|---|---|
| 9 | RAIN DANCE: Cryptic definition |
| 10 | OTARY: (A TORY)* and any member of the Otariidae (the family of eared seals) |
| 11 | STILTON: (LIST NOT)* |
| 12 | REJOICE: RE + homophone of (James) Joyce |
| 13 | AFTER: AFTER[S]; the “left behind” bit of the clue confused me a bit, but I suppose it means “more aft” |
| 14 | SPHERICAL: (SHIP CLEAR)*; “round” is the definition, rather unusually :) |
| 16 | STRAIGHTFORWARD: STRAIGHT = “square” (as in “honest”) + FORWARD = “on” |
| 19 | RELATIONS: GERMAN + S; although this was a baffling clue at first, the dictionary tells me that “german” has an obsolete meaning of a sibling, so there’s a nice bit of misleading capitalization going on |
| 21 | BLEAK: Double definition |
| 22 | DECKING: An elegant double definition (probably my favourite clue in this puzzle): the two meanings are “Gracing” as in “adorning” (e.g. with holly and ivy) and the decking (”platform”) you might find outside around a house |
| 23 | MARITAL: [EM]MA + (TRIAL)* |
| 24 | HINDU: Hidden answer |
| 25 | RACEHORSE: Cryptic definition, I suppose? A “maiden” is a horse that has never won a race |
| Down | |
| 1 | TRESPASSER: Cryptic definition |
| 2 | SINISTER: IN in SISTER |
| 3 | EDITOR: IT in RODE reversed |
| 4 | ANON: A “Non!” might be the result of a French vote |
| 5 | GEARSHIFTS: The two lots of clothes are GEAR and SHIFTS. The definition is rather nice - the gear shift will get worn down eventually… |
| 6 | CONJUROR: Cryptic definition. I’m slightly annoyed about this clue, since I had “sorcerer” at first, which I think works better. (Conjurors don’t really cast spells, unless you count the odd “abracadabra”.) |
| 7 | MANIOC: MAN (”island”) + IOC (International Olympic Committee); a new word to me, but fortunately with an obvious construction that leads you to the dictionary definition. It’s a starchy root, or a meal of the same according to Chambers |
| 8 | TYRE: (TRY)* + E; Tyrian purple was discovered in Tyre |
| 14 | SCHOOLGIRL: Cryptic definition |
| 15 | LADYKILLER: Double definition |
| 17 | INTRIGUE: An excellent double definition; I really like the noun / verb ones |
| 18 | APERTURE: Cryptic definition, referring to the Box Brownie, one of the first mass-market cameras. |
| 20 | LUCENT: (CLUE)* + extremes of NoT |
| 21 | BERTHA: (BREATH)* |
| 22 | DAHL: Unless I’ve missed something (quite likely!), this seems like the weakest clue - I think it’s just a hidden answer, but then (a) the word “Blue” is redundant except to make up the surface meaning (b) having the hidden word starting on a word boundary is a bit obvious and (c) some people don’t like “of” as a hidden answer indicator. Or is “[out] of the blue” the indicator? |
| 23 | MACE: (CAME)* |
September 25th, 2008 at 11:19 am
I had MAGICIAN at first for 6dn, and GEARCHANGE for 5dn. The usual problem of cryptic defs not leading to a single answer.
I agree with you in not liking 22dn - another objection to it is that the Dahlia is named after a Mr Dahl.
13ac - I thought “left” behind” was a reasonable definition of AFTER, but I think the clue is very weak.
14dn - why “reported”? There’s no homophone involved.
September 25th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Ouch, GEARCHANGE works well…
I think it’s “reported to be in” as in “turned up to be in” and the clue is deliberately misleading you into looking for a homophone.
September 25th, 2008 at 11:40 am
I agree with all your comments on 22 dn: we MUST be missing something, mustn’t we? It’s the most overt ‘hidden’ answer I remember seeing. And what’s ‘blue’ doing?
14dn: I thought it was that schoolgirls get reports and so are ‘reported’.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
22d There is a novel (and film) of that name by Raymond Chandler
September 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
It was only a film, I think. (If it turns out there’s a Raymond Chandler novel I haven’t read yet I’d be most distressed!) That’s just the surface reading, though - I’m not sure how it helps getting us cryptically to DAHL…
September 25th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
7D Not having heard of the word ‘manioc’, I could only think of ‘maniac’, so I went to the on-line version and used the ‘check’ function, which gives MANIAC?
September 25th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
How strange. I’m pretty sure that’s a mistake in the online version - you might want to email crossword.editor (at sign) guardianunlimited.co.uk to point it out…
Come to think of it, I misunderstood the sense of “meal” in the dictionary to mean “food served together” instead of “coarsely ground something-or-other”, but nonetheless MANIOC still fits the clue and MANIAC doesn’t seem to.
September 25th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
19 ac irritated me, but then I loathe the use of archaisms. And the possessive is inaccuarte. There are far better ways of cluing “relation” than resorting to obscurantism. I don’t mind learning something new that might be useful, but I’m not about to start calling my brother a German, with or without a capital. Rant over.
I had “gearchange” as well but couldn’t see it being “worn” like a gear shift. And I would say it’s two words.
In 14 dn wouldn’t “She’s in form” have been much crisper and more elegant?
As for “Dahl” it’s all been said.
And the French did vote NON!, mhl.
September 25th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
My inaccuarate was inaccurate…
September 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Sorry, it was my inaccuarte that was inaccurate, not my inaccuarate.
I’m going for a lie down in a dark room.
September 25th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Dave Ellison & Mhl: 22dn It’s a film only (with Alan Ladd). The novel & film is Black Dahlis by James Ellroy
September 25th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I eyeballed
and saw it was writen by Raymond C. On a closer look just now I see it was the screenplay he wrote.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Opps, sorry. I am trying to give a link to the wiki page for the film, but keep meeting with no success
September 26th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Can I throw in a grumble about 24ac? Not all Indians are Hindus and not all Hindus are Indians. I don’t think anyone would get away with defining ‘Catholic’ as ‘Spaniard’.
All in all far too many rather tenuous DDs and CDs for my taste.
September 26th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Hindu can also mean “a native or inhabitant of Hindustan or India”.