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	<title>Comments on: Azed 1869 / Plain -  Stiff Challenge</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a relief to know I wasn't the only person to register discomfort with two clues: mild in the case of ZONA, rather less mild with BACH, where "Gareth" still seems like a rude and over-specific intrusion (if all it's doing is giving the clue a Welsh flavour..). I spent two days trying to remember if there was ever a centre-half called Gareth -ach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a relief to know I wasn&#8217;t the only person to register discomfort with two clues: mild in the case of ZONA, rather less mild with BACH, where &#8220;Gareth&#8221; still seems like a rude and over-specific intrusion (if all it&#8217;s doing is giving the clue a Welsh flavour..). I spent two days trying to remember if there was ever a centre-half called Gareth -ach.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Zara</title>
		<link>http://fifteensquared.net/2008/03/30/azed-1869-plain-stiff-challenge/#comment-18143</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Zara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7 down is flaUTISt, I think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7 down is flaUTISt, I think</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Heald</title>
		<link>http://fifteensquared.net/2008/03/30/azed-1869-plain-stiff-challenge/#comment-18133</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Heald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and 8 Dn works if we assume "chap" to be CAT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and 8 Dn works if we assume &#8220;chap&#8221; to be CAT.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Heald</title>
		<link>http://fifteensquared.net/2008/03/30/azed-1869-plain-stiff-challenge/#comment-18132</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Heald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and 16 Dn is UP (rev.) + AS in PACE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and 16 Dn is UP (rev.) + AS in PACE.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Heald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Heald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>13 Ac: the wordplay here I think is A (ante = before) + RUM in UP (fully) + anag.

1 Dn: this is VAS(-s)AL
 
2 Dn: I think this is OU + D in TO (before).

Strange but true: in Eimi's Independent puzzle two days prior to this one, I noticed the final grid contained BACH running across in the NE corner, and ACACIA running down in the SW corner - as was exactly the case in this puzzle!  I know, I should get out more ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>13 Ac: the wordplay here I think is A (ante = before) + RUM in UP (fully) + anag.</p>
<p>1 Dn: this is VAS(-s)AL</p>
<p>2 Dn: I think this is OU + D in TO (before).</p>
<p>Strange but true: in Eimi&#8217;s Independent puzzle two days prior to this one, I noticed the final grid contained BACH running across in the NE corner, and ACACIA running down in the SW corner - as was exactly the case in this puzzle!  I know, I should get out more &#8230;</p>
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