Comments on: Independent 6586/Nimrod (24-11-07) http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/ Never knowingly undersolved. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:57:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Fletch http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8559 Fletch Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:40:28 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8559 One shouldn't attempt to define Nimrod's unique brand of genius ;-) One shouldn’t attempt to define Nimrod’s unique brand of genius ;-)

]]> By: Al Streatfield http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8516 Al Streatfield Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:18:39 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8516 Re PUGILISTIC: For UGLI shurely some indication that it is a fruit that is required is necessary, like, er, "fruit", for instance, in which case the solver might stand a microscopic chance (UGLI being a very obscure fruit) of working it out. Can "framed" be a container/contained indicator which gets the contained inside PIC? I've always thought a PIC (i.e. picture) is inside a frame (i.e.framed) not inside a PIC! Has Eimi got a more precise definition than "Very Nimrod"! of the clue that is being described? Al Re PUGILISTIC:

For UGLI shurely some indication that it is a fruit that is required is necessary, like, er, “fruit”, for instance, in which case the solver might stand a microscopic chance (UGLI being a very obscure fruit) of working it out.

Can “framed” be a container/contained indicator which gets the contained inside PIC? I’ve always thought a PIC (i.e. picture) is inside a frame (i.e.framed) not inside a PIC!

Has Eimi got a more precise definition than “Very Nimrod”! of the clue that is being described?

Al

]]> By: Testy http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8480 Testy Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:21:57 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8480 OMG! Never in a month of Saturdays would I have got that! Did anyone else (other than Eimi and Nimrod) manage to parse it? OMG! Never in a month of Saturdays would I have got that!

Did anyone else (other than Eimi and Nimrod) manage to parse it?

]]> By: nmsindy http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8479 nmsindy Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:09:06 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8479 PUGILISTIC I got it from the definition "Prizefighter's" but, like Neildubya, IST was as far as I got with the wordplay. Thanks, Eimi, for explaining it. PUGILISTIC I got it from the definition “Prizefighter’s” but, like Neildubya, IST was as far as I got with the wordplay. Thanks, Eimi, for explaining it.

]]> By: neildubya http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8478 neildubya Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:41:32 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8478 Good grief. I saw IST but I doubt I would ever have got the rest. Good grief. I saw IST but I doubt I would ever have got the rest.

]]> By: eimi http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8477 eimi Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:35:58 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8477 PUGILISTIC is by far the trickiest clue, as it contains the manipulation of a word that is not very precisely clued. The key to the parsing is that 'cross' is used in the sense of a hybrid, in this case UGLI, but with the last letter inside UGL. So, UGIL, IS, (bou)T, inside PIC, indicated by framed, the definition being 'Prizefighter's.' Very Nimrod! PUGILISTIC is by far the trickiest clue, as it contains the manipulation of a word that is not very precisely clued. The key to the parsing is that ‘cross’ is used in the sense of a hybrid, in this case UGLI, but with the last letter inside UGL. So, UGIL, IS, (bou)T, inside PIC, indicated by framed, the definition being ‘Prizefighter’s.’ Very Nimrod!

]]> By: Testy http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8475 Testy Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:29:55 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8475 I'm still struggling with PUGILISTIC though. I can see lots of potential bits and pieces but nothing that makes much sense. What's making it harder is that I can't even spot the definition (given that it is an adjective rather than a noun). "prize" could be CUP "fighter" could be GI "cross" could be PUG (in the cross-breed of dog sense) "is close to bout" could be IS (bou)T "framed" could be a container indicator......??? I’m still struggling with PUGILISTIC though. I can see lots of potential bits and pieces but nothing that makes much sense. What’s making it harder is that I can’t even spot the definition (given that it is an adjective rather than a noun).

“prize” could be CUP
“fighter” could be GI
“cross” could be PUG (in the cross-breed of dog sense)
“is close to bout” could be IS (bou)T
“framed” could be a container indicator……???

]]> By: neildubya http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8471 neildubya Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:59:27 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8471 STAKES - I hadn't spotted that at all but I think you're right. Testy - thanks. I knew I could rely on you for explanations! STAKES - I hadn’t spotted that at all but I think you’re right.

Testy - thanks. I knew I could rely on you for explanations!

]]> By: nmsindy http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8469 nmsindy Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:54:29 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8469 Maybe it's implicit in the explanation but I read STAKES as TAKE for 'one = A in SAS ie a substitution. Maybe it’s implicit in the explanation but I read STAKES as TAKE for ‘one = A in SAS ie a substitution.

]]> By: Testy http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8468 Testy Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:47:57 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/2007/11/30/independent-6586nimrod-24-11-07/#comment-8468 The TRIPLE of 20/24 comes from TRIFLE (i.e. sweet) but P (quiet) instead of F (loud). The TRIPLE of 20/24 comes from TRIFLE (i.e. sweet) but P (quiet) instead of F (loud).

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